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| Quote Standee="Standee"Im not for one minute saying that I'd gain huge speed by being a porker, but I could do to weight about 2 stone more, when I ski with my pack on (with camera's etc.) then I do get faster, but the centre of gravity is unusual so I become unstable. I never train(ed) for more than 45 minutes at a time, always did stacked reps and sets, the big issue for me is calorie intake, I eat about 800 a day, and even then I force that down, if I could find a reliable (and digestable) option that packed me 1000 calories in without impacting my ability to do the rest of my day then I'd be back in the gym tomorrow.'"
Only 800 a day
In that case, it's all calories rather than any exercise plan to change. I'm sure you've tried everything usually recommended: eggs, nuts, weight gain powders, full fat milk, even booze and chocolate. If you can't get a couple of thousand calories from those, then I'm out of ideas!
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| Quote Richie="Richie"Only 800 a day
In that case, it's all calories rather than any exercise plan to change. I'm sure you've tried everything usually recommended: eggs, nuts, weight gain powders, full fat milk, even booze and chocolate. If you can't get a couple of thousand calories from those, then I'm out of ideas!'"
all weight gain powders make me **** through the eye of a needle, within 10 minutes of drinking them.
I am lactose intolerant, so milk is out
6+ eggs a day, really, you want me to never use a lift or public transport?
booze I can do, but 2,000 calories a day isn't going to leave me with a working liver.
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| To much emphasis on supplements these days, I have done weights for years and through experience i would recomend protein powders if you are not getting enough through diet and creatine for muscle building, forget everything else, expensive that make little difference. as far as fat burning goes, diet and exercise, if you get down to low fat levels and want to shift that last bit try a fat burner but the majority are stim based will have you buzzing a bit. Caffiene tablets are cheap if you really want a supp.
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I have done this and lost pretty much 1lb per day. Tough going, but ultimately worth it for my goals of losing a bit before holiday!
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I have done this and lost pretty much 1lb per day. Tough going, but ultimately worth it for my goals of losing a bit before holiday!
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Im not for one minute saying that I'd gain huge speed by being a porker, but I could do to weight about 2 stone more, when I ski with my pack on (with camera's etc.) then I do get faster, but the centre of gravity is unusual so I become unstable. I never train(ed) for more than 45 minutes at a time, always did stacked reps and sets, the big issue for me is calorie intake, I eat about 800 a day, and even then I force that down, if I could find a reliable (and digestable) option that packed me 1000 calories in without impacting my ability to do the rest of my day then I'd be back in the gym tomorrow.'"
Do you really only take in 800 calories a day?? As far as I'm aware that's only just above malnutrition levels.
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| Quote Ovavoo="Ovavoo"Do you really only take in 800 calories a day?? As far as I'm aware that's only just above malnutrition levels.'"
Yes, I would imagine it's not much more, maybe a 1000 at times, that is why I'd like to find a supplement that suits me, too much emphasis on getting thin (which is easy, eat less fatty!), can't get help from my GP or even private, they all say the same stuff "eat more" sorry, but if I don't have an apetite then how can I?
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| It was [url=http://www.menshealth-today.com/indexuk.php?sub=FBR/this[/url article that made me wonder if it was something the could/would/does work or not??
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| Quote Mike Oxlong="Mike Oxlong"It was [url=http://www.menshealth-today.com/indexuk.php?sub=FBR/this[/url article that made me wonder if it was something the could/would/does work or not??'"
That is a waste of money in a bottle.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Yes, I would imagine it's not much more, maybe a 1000 at times, that is why I'd like to find a supplement that suits me, too much emphasis on getting thin (which is easy, eat less fatty!), can't get help from my GP or even private, they all say the same stuff "eat more" sorry, but if I don't have an apetite then how can I?'"
If there's nothing physically wrong, which only a specialist either NHS or private could ascertain, 800 calories a day is bordering on dangerous. There's apparently something such as starvation mode that your body enters into when you don't get enough food, resulting in a reduced appetite. This is bad, not just because it can lead to reduced organ function but also should you become ill, your body will not have the wherewithal to cope.
If I were you, I'd ask my GP to refer me asap. In the meantime, you could try "Ensure Plus Juce". I was prescribed this for around four months, following an operation and it's very easy to take (liquid form) with 330 calories per 200ml. I was on 4 a day plus an odd bit of toast and my weight and appetite is back to near normal.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Quote Standee="Ovavoo"Do you really only take in 800 calories a day?? As far as I'm aware that's only just above malnutrition levels.'"
Yes, I would imagine it's not much more, maybe a 1000 at times, that is why I'd like to find a supplement that suits me, too much emphasis on getting thin (which is easy, eat less fatty!), can't get help from my GP or even private, they all say the same stuff "eat more" sorry, but if I don't have an apetite then how can I?'"
Nuts are an old fashioned nutrition remedy for those with a suppressed appetite.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Yes, I would imagine it's not much more, maybe a 1000 at times, that is why I'd like to find a supplement that suits me, too much emphasis on getting thin (which is easy, eat less fatty!), can't get help from my GP or even private, they all say the same stuff "eat more" sorry, but if I don't have an apetite then how can I?'"
Could it be you just have a small stomach?. I don't want to sound patronising but i do know somebody who was taken years ago to the doctors by the parents (who were worried that something was wrong and fed up with peoples comments that they can't be feeding them enough) and that was the diagnosis.
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| Quote Ovavoo="Ovavoo"If there's nothing physically wrong, which only a specialist either NHS or private could ascertain, 800 calories a day is bordering on dangerous. There's apparently something such as starvation mode that your body enters into when you don't get enough food, resulting in a reduced appetite. This is bad, not just because it can lead to reduced organ function but also should you become ill, your body will not have the wherewithal to cope.
If I were you, I'd ask my GP to refer me asap. In the meantime, you could try "Ensure Plus Juce". I was prescribed this for around four months, following an operation and it's very easy to take (liquid form) with 330 calories per 200ml. I was on 4 a day plus an odd bit of toast and my weight and appetite is back to near normal.'"
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
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