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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"The Conservatives’ mandate is very weak and the new leader taking it on second hand is not going to be in a strong position. His party won’t allow a deal, Parliament won’t allow no deal, a general election would be massively unpredictable with the Brexit Party and committed Remain parties taking votes from the Conservatives and Labour, and a second referendum would likely be close enough to not solve the problem. Stalemate.
Clumsy, ugly and potentially disasterous as it will be, maybe it needs someone like Johnson to bring it to a head, and see how it falls out. Or maybe he’ll just tie himself and us in even more Gordian knots.
We really have made a right pig’s ear of this.'"
Couldn't agree more, add to that Labour won't allow a deal what ever as it might be as a way of getting a general election. It was said on Politics live today that the only thing Johnson is hoping to renegotiate with the EU is the backstop. So it looks like the status quo will continue.
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| Quote POSTL="POSTL"Couldn't agree more, add to that Labour won't allow a deal what ever as it might be as a way of getting a general election. It was said on Politics live today that the only thing Johnson is hoping to renegotiate with the EU is the backstop. So it looks like the status quo will continue.'"
Until the 31st of October.
I don’t think the EU will allow another extension, at least anything more than a very short one to finalise something. So, one way or another, a choice will finally have to be made.
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| The plan will be to allow Europe to let us go without an extension then blame them for all the resulting fallout. That'll be the only way they can spin it if it all goes wrong.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"Until the 31st of October.
I don’t think the EU will allow another extension, at least anything more than a very short one to finalise something. So, one way or another, a choice will finally have to be made.'"
I think that you are wrong regarding a short extension, well kind of.
They would almost certainly allow a short technical extension.
However, for anything else they would more likely insist on a couple of years (at least).
No matter which side of the Brexit argument you are aligned to, Mrs May has played a truly shocking hand, which just about prevents any further short extension (other than a "technical" one).
With Boris almost certain to be in the big chair, I expect that he will demand a change to the "backstop" and tell the EU that without a change to this, we will go full steam ahead for a "no deal" on Halloween and right now, with how the country is and despite my personal preference of "remain", I believe that this is the only real option left.
The Tories will all fall into line and with the "help" of a few Labour "leave" MP's, this will see the first part of the Brexit bill over the line, just.
The alternative for the Tories would be a general election, which will ensure that there are very, very few, Tory rebels.
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| And as well as having no mandate from the people , one of these two jerks gets to become PM supported by a NI terrorist group. 
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| [urlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48721211[/url
Move along....nothing to see here......given the old pussy grabber was elected to the white House, no doubt this "domestic" will endear him to the Tory faithful
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"I have to believe there are good people on all sides; far more on the left obviously....
I agree with that & this is what the dischuffed & disenfranchised should be putting their frustrations into. Taking central power from London & giving it to the regions for all but national & international strategic decisions. Getting people to believe they can truly influence politics.'"
They’d have have you think that those on the left were good people but they’re just better liars. Both sides are a shower of shi’ite and every four years we vote for a kick in the balls or a punch in the face and try to convince each other that one is better than the other.
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"[urlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48721211[/url
Move along....nothing to see here......given the old pussy grabber was elected to the white House, no doubt this "domestic" will endear him to the Tory faithful'"
Shock horror! A couple have a row over spilt wine! Dear me!
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| Quote wotsupcas="wotsupcas"Shock horror! A couple have a row over spilt wine! Dear me!'"
Indeed.
If there had been a call from his partner to the police, there may have been a story but, this is just tabloid sensationalism and a sorry sign of the modern world.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Indeed.
If there had been a call from his partner to the police, there may have been a story but, this is just tabloid sensationalism and a sorry sign of the modern world.'"
It's not just the tabloids though is it. The story I saw was from the guardian
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Move along....nothing to see here......given the old pussy grabber was elected to the white House, no doubt this "domestic" will endear him to the Tory faithful'"
Oh dear I bet you feel a bit of a prat now full details are emerging. It seems the "concerned" neighbours have a none too complimentary poster on their car about our Boris
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The white supremacist Steve Bannon has said he has been advising Boris Johnson, something Boris Johnson has repeatedly denied and called “lefty delusion”. Boris Johnson has shown yet again he is a liar and has dangerous links to the neo Nazi far right.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... is-johnson
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The white supremacist Steve Bannon has said he has been advising Boris Johnson, something Boris Johnson has repeatedly denied and called “lefty delusion”. Boris Johnson has shown yet again he is a liar and has dangerous links to the neo Nazi far right.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... is-johnson
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