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| Quote ColD="ColD"Well let’s not pretend Morgan is a Tory fan - he was trying to run Boris into the ground come election time. Click bait is spot on, waits for the opportunity pretty much no matter who it is and then over runs them, he even does it with his side kick - very frustrating bloke'"
Morgan is only interested in one thing - Morgan.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Morgan is only interested in one thing - Morgan.'"
Similarities with the Prime Minister, then. That'd be an interesting one-to-one.
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| Quote King Street Cat="King Street Cat"Similarities with the Prime Minister, then. That'd be an interesting one-to-one.'"
I agree - Boris mumbles too much he lacks clarity - Morgan just shouts too much
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Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Morgan is only interested in one thing - Morgan.'"
Morgan has a history of turning on the country in its moment of need. Soldiers on the battlefield putting there lives at risk then this; https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/ ... ndthemedia what a t0sser that guy is
Even his 'mate' in USA has turned on him
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Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Morgan is only interested in one thing - Morgan.'"
Morgan has a history of turning on the country in its moment of need. Soldiers on the battlefield putting there lives at risk then this; https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/ ... ndthemedia what a t0sser that guy is
Even his 'mate' in USA has turned on him
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Quote wire-quin="wire-quin"Morgan has a history of turning on the country in its moment of need. Soldiers on the battlefield putting there lives at risk then this; https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/ ... ndthemedia what a t0sser that guy is
Even his 'mate' in USA has turned on him'"
He's a classic attention seeker.
Not bothered about being right or being in the right, just as long as the spotlight is on him.
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Even his 'mate' in USA has turned on him'"
He's a classic attention seeker.
Not bothered about being right or being in the right, just as long as the spotlight is on him.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"He's a classic attention seeker.
Not bothered about being right or being in the right, just as long as the spotlight is on him.'"
Arrogant individual - showed when Bridgen went on Talksport to complain/discuss - he took the p!ss out of him and then offered him a bet of £10k knowing the MP couldn't afford it - lowest form of scum
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| So, and additional circa 800,000 already unemployed plus 3.5 million furloughed, with maybe half ? of those at risk of not having a job to go back to when the dust begins to settle.
As yet, no clear plan of how to get the nation working again and the "hole" getting bigger by the day.
Is it time for some stronger government, helping to identify those industries that can get moving quickly or do we just keep borrowing until this is all over ?
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"So, and additional circa 800,000 already unemployed plus 3.5 million furloughed, with maybe half ? of those at risk of not having a job to go back to when the dust begins to settle.
As yet, no clear plan of how to get the nation working again and the "hole" getting bigger by the day.
Is it time for some stronger government, helping to identify those industries that can get moving quickly or do we just keep borrowing until this is all over ?'"
Until demand picks up businesses will not go back whilst ever the furlough scheme is in place. Most business could return very safely it is not difficult - yes will people get within 2 metres of course they will unavoidable 100% of the time - we are humans we like herding. If you cannot get the unions to accept any return to work can never be 100% risk free you have a problem. Waiting for a vaccine is non-runner it is as always an appetite for risk?
Will their be short term 3/4m unemployed very likely but it will be short term I suspect 1.5m structural unemployed in 18 months time.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Until demand picks up businesses will not go back whilst ever the furlough scheme is in place. Most business could return very safely it is not difficult - yes will people get within 2 metres of course they will unavoidable 100% of the time - we are humans we like herding. If you cannot get the unions to accept any return to work can never be 100% risk free you have a problem. Waiting for a vaccine is non-runner it is as always an appetite for risk?
Will their be short term 3/4m unemployed very likely but it will be short term I suspect 1.5m structural unemployed in 18 months time.'"
We are all in a quite precarious position.
If the "lockdown" is eased too much, we will be back to square one, with the virus spreading as it did at the beginning of the outbreak, which would render the pain and economic meltdown of the last few months as wasted and pointless.
Where you do start to wonder about our government strategy is that we were just a few weeks behind Italy but, we look like taking significantly longer to open up to the level that they are currently at ?
Also, regarding the speed at which unemployment may drop, where on earth does your optimism come from ?
Companies are going to go mean and lean until there is some certainty about any 2nd wave and indications from The WHO are that there will be a return of the virus in the winter, which would massively affect any "bounce".
The only positive here will be if Trump continues with his personal drug trials, which will have a positive outcome one way or the other.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"We are all in a quite precarious position.
If the "lockdown" is eased too much, we will be back to square one, with the virus spreading as it did at the beginning of the outbreak, which would render the pain and economic meltdown of the last few months as wasted and pointless.
Where you do start to wonder about our government strategy is that we were just a few weeks behind Italy but, we look like taking significantly longer to open up to the level that they are currently at ?
Also, regarding the speed at which unemployment may drop, where on earth does your optimism come from ?
Companies are going to go mean and lean until there is some certainty about any 2nd wave and indications from The WHO are that there will be a return of the virus in the winter, which would massively affect any "bounce".
The only positive here will be if Trump continues with his personal drug trials, which will have a positive outcome one way or the other.'"
I am looking at my own business and we have recovered from 50% early lockdown we now at 75% and I know I am not alone in my sector which suggests that the economy is moving forward. So it doesn't take a huge leap of faith to suggest in 18 months we will be back to where we were.
I think there is a lot of talk about a second wave - this wave will have killed 60k the vast majority of which are elderly with underlying conditions - so that's 60k of 65m yes it is very sad but to suggest a second wave will cause economic meltdown is way off the mark for me. The vast majority of fit working people will be very moderately impacted by the virus.
What will happen is the good businesses will survive and grow - the bad businesses that have dragged the economy back will be gone - no bad thing in opinion. We will be a leaner/meaner workforce - nothing new for me or many well run businesses.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"I am looking at my own business and we have recovered from 50% early lockdown we now at 75% and I know I am not alone in my sector which suggests that the economy is moving forward. So it doesn't take a huge leap of faith to suggest in 18 months we will be back to where we were.
I think there is a lot of talk about a second wave - this wave will have killed 60k the vast majority of which are elderly with underlying conditions - so that's 60k of 65m yes it is very sad but to suggest a second wave will cause economic meltdown is way off the mark for me. The vast majority of fit working people will be very moderately impacted by the virus.
What will happen is the good businesses will survive and grow - the bad businesses that have dragged the economy back will be gone - no bad thing in opinion. We will be a leaner/meaner workforce - nothing new for me or many well run businesses.'"
Wow, just wow and for those who have been forced out of business by "lockdown", unlucky eh ??
You seem unable to work out that if the virus numbers start to grow again, we would end up back in lockdown, unless the vaccine is found (and works).
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Wow, just wow and for those who have been forced out of business bey "lockdown", unlucky eh ??
You seem unable to work out that if the virus numbers start to grow again, we would end up back in lockdown, unless the vaccine is found (and works).'"
Are their any countries that after relaxing lockdown have had to instigate the same level of lockdown as before?
We have never found a vaccine for a virus of this group - let's start to think of how we live with it?
The numbers will grow but who is dying - are they ones that are going to drive the economy or are they ones that no longer contribute - or they have done their bit?
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