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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"And in a further rather obvious response to UKIP, Lord Lawson, writing in Murdoch's [iTimes[/i today, says the case for exit from the EU is clear.
Mind, I love the bit where he accuses businesses of being lazy and prepared to sit on their laurels, trading with the EU, when they should be out there, trading with China. "Globalisation" is the game, apparently.'"
My level of dislike for that man has just increased by an order of magnitude.
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| [url=http://www.ier.org.uk/blog/ukip-workplaceUKIP - the party that wants to get rid of ALL employment rights[/url.
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| Interesting piece - they also seem to have fallen for the fact that public spending (for example on workers' salaries) does put money into the economy. I remember paying tax and NI for example, and clearly must have been the only one.
They're looking more and more like a bunch of racists in suits who are making stuff up as they go along, with no understanding of anything apart from keeping darkies out.
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| Quote Chris28="Chris28"Interesting piece - they also seem to have fallen for the fact that public spending (for example on workers' salaries) does put money into the economy. I remember paying tax and NI for example, and clearly must have been the only one.
They're looking more and more like a bunch of racists in suits who are making stuff up as they go along, with no understanding of anything apart from keeping darkies out.'"
By and large, I think that they're a bunch of fairly typical 'market-solves-everything' neo-liberals, with either a genuine belief in the need to stop immigration and leave the EU or are chancers who think those may be selling points.
But one of the things that the article highlights is how, according to what the party itself has okayed in terms of policy ideas, it would be entirely happy with high unemployment. Which, logically, means that the idea that companies will be able to use better working terms and conditions as lures for staff will fall, as there will be no shortage of labour.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"[url=http://www.ier.org.uk/blog/ukip-workplaceUKIP - the party that wants to get rid of ALL employment rights[/url.'"
So do the Tories.
As I keep saying the powers they want repatriated from the EU are all to do with employment rights so they can rip them up, not powers so we can legalise the sale of bent bananas.
They never say this outright and if it is mentioned at all it is using stock phrases such as "making the UK work force more competitive".
And yet if asked the simple question "Would you like to see powers repatriated from the EU?" many people would say "Yes" and never ask[iwhat [/ipowers and [iwhy[/i do you want them repatriated.
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| Anyone noticed the "biggest trade deal in history" coming up? (*)
Between the EU and the US.
n.b. That's the [uEU[/u not the UK.
I wonder what UKIP makes of that?
Do they think that the US will make a special deal just for the UK if we pull out of the EU?
Because I don't ... we'd merely have to dance to the US tune.
(*) Providing they can console each other about the spying row first.
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Anyone noticed the "biggest trade deal in history" coming up? (*)
Between the EU and the US.
n.b. That's the [uEU[/u not the UK.
I wonder what UKIP makes of that?
Do they think that the US will make a special deal just for the UK if we pull out of the EU?
Because I don't ... we'd merely have to dance to the US tune.
(*) Providing they can console each other about the spying row first.'"
Yes I noticed and it would not surprise me to see Cameron plugging it as a reason to stay in and it would be. I bet he is bricking it that it doesn't collapse over the the spying row.
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"
Do they think that the US will make a special deal just for the UK if we pull out of the EU?
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We've still got the E̶m̶p̶i̶r̶e̶ Commonwealth, why would we need the Old Colonies?
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"[url=http://www.ier.org.uk/blog/ukip-workplaceUKIP - the party that wants to get rid of ALL employment rights[/url.'"
The article does not say ALL rights will be lost. Your post is misleading.
[i'In particular, limits on unfair dismissal and discrimination claims will be re-instated and no unfair dismissals or discrimination claims would be admitted by the Tribunals in respect of employees with less than two years continuous employment'.[/i
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"The article does not say ALL rights will be lost. Your post is misleading.
[i'In particular, limits on unfair dismissal and discrimination claims will be re-instated and no unfair dismissals or discrimination claims would be admitted by the Tribunals in respect of employees with less than two years continuous employment'.[/i'"
Read the entire article. You clearly haven't. It says much more than that.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"Read the entire article. You clearly haven't. It says much more than that.'"
Yes I have and nowhere does it say ALL rights will be lost as you claim.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Yes I have and nowhere does it say ALL rights will be lost as you claim.'"
And nowhere does it claim what you claimed.
It says that far more rights than just those relating to tribunals would be lost.
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