Here we go again





The rise in attendances will include all punters, however, the club never give away free tickets (or charge peanuts for season tickets like other clubs).



Regarding the lottery, we aren't taking on 600 new people a week, we have taken on 600 in the last 8 weeks or so, which equates to £30K a year. People are joining all the time which will increase still further. I think there are 5,000 - 6,000 lottery shareholders, each paying £1 a week.



The figures I mentioned were announced by Des and the BOD at a fundraising meeting 2 weeks ago.



I think you Fax (and Widnes) fans are the gullable ones. Des this, Des that, Rooney on this, Catic on that. All complete cobblers.



Fax should have a good squad next season and so will we. Should be another great season.



Get used to it. We're here to stay (until 2012 anyway)

now now now... dont make predictions that you will be relegated into Championship 1 until the start of 2011 season

More like 1k actual existing people and 5k registered to ANOther.





On an unrelated note; does prize money won incur income tax?

And on another unrelated note, if a player wins a club lottery does it count against the cap?

Barrow do not provide free tickets for games other than complimentary tickets for sponsors and players. They also do not provide major concessions other than the standard discounts for pensioners, children and the Junior Raiders club. The only others are that the local amateur clubs are entitled to tickets at a tenner each, tho I think the clubs must buy these prior to selling on to their players.



The Barrow Rugby lottery is the second largest lottery in the country and was the largest up until the introduction of the National Lottery. The statement was that it has recently increased by 600 members and more are joining each week, not 600 per week. I wish it was 600 per week tho.



I am reasonably comfortable with the operating figures for last year as I would suggest that they are pretty good for the Championship in the current economic climate. I would also expect that the expenditure this year is within the clubs financial limits as the board are very proud of their record of having never been in administration or receivership and learned their lesson in the 80's when it was a close run thing whether the club would survive the attentions of Her Majesties Revenue Service. I believe Wakey are suffering their not so subtle probings at the moment!



As one of you posted, what are Fax's accounts like for that period? Fairly similar I would have thought. At least it aint a million loss like Widnes.

Talk about changing your tune.

First we get all the accusations that Des bankrolls the entire club and if he walked we'd all be doomed, and then when you 'reveal' that he has lent the club money we're still doomed.



Again, you speak from a real position of ignorance.



The fact is that by the start of the 2010 season the increase in lottery stakeholders will cover the £80K we 'owe' Des.



Let's look at which Championship clubs have been financially impotent in the last few years ...



Widnes

Gateshead

Oldham

Doncaster (x2)

Rochdale

oh and Fax



On top of those, several other clubs including Haven, Workington, Blackpool and others have, or still are, sailing very close to the wind financially.



Having a managed debt and overdraft is completely normal in business. Note the word MANAGED.

What are you talking about ?????

The Barrow RL lottery has been running for close to 30 years and has kept the club afloat for many years.



Still, why should the facts spoil a good conspiracy

Posted a small profit IIRC.

this is what tonyfax found out & posted on here start of Oct.

To post figures exactly the same , and to suggest the club broke exactly even without somebody putting money in to balance the figures up is incredible , if you believe that you also believe in the tooth fairy and that a man in a red suit delivers those pressies on Xmas morning



The figures posted for Barrow are fairly good reading if correct

Ah for the 'sanctuary' , on this board, of C1, where there appears to be no other club supporters to bicker with!

Talking of tickets....I can vouch that getting comps for players out of Barrow was like pulling teeth!!

It was 14-1 actually