I asked Geoff Butler (as as Stadium Manager stewards are surely his responsibility) when we'd have some Stewards who can control a crowd. His answer was "Our fans are as bad"



that doesnt answer my Question, Had I said our fans had behaved impeccably? Mind you he'd just tried to stop 2 Fev fans getting on the pitch who just walked around him





So if the Stadium Manager doesnt see there to be a problem with the stewarding, there obviously Isnt one is there

Why is there no police there used to be at thrumhall

The stewarding at the Shay has been a joke for years. It the complete oppostie to that you see at footy. They get edgy when you stand up in an all seater stadium, these lot do NOTHING. How many times on Friday did supporters from both teams have to physically calm there own fans down or tell them off? It shouldnt get the the stage it does sometimes anyway. Ok, people should act a bit better in public but its competative sport, the end of the week, people are gonna have a few etc etc but it is going to happen, you can brand RL as 'the family sport' all you like, it still goes on.

I think it's getting to the stage were despite on 200 aways fans turning up etc, the Away Stand should just be open for them creating no problems at all.

Personally i don't blame fans for chanting 'easy, easy etc' at 18-0 up. At that stage it was and we didnt know the outcome plus it's a bit o banter innit, everythings banter, it's just some dont rise above it, but that when the stewards wanna stop fans from running to the front of the stand an mouthing off to everyone.



Some people also get a bit stressed when bad things happen for some reason. I think some genuinly thought we'd go the entire season un beaten at home, playing nice rugby, everyone in the stands would be happy and the away fans would just come and go as they do. sport or life isnt like that, things happen, things a lot worse than what we saw on Friday. People need to take stock and chillax a bit about things.

you have to show an element of arrogance when you are on top. It was easy after 20 minutes. At then it got harder and fev soon shut us up.

But isn't that what sport is all about. .Highs and lows.

You got to enjoy success otherwise what's the point.

Should we be perpetually humble? Apologise for being better?

Not make a noise about the highs just because we are so au fait with the lows. When teams and fans rub your noses in it, it is annoying, but also galvanising.

Aussies are the perfect exponents of winning

So when we are being "arrogant" as you put it it's ok to throw missiles?? Don't think so . Do you. Seems your condoning these snotty nosed fans antics.

hang on, that is a gross misquote. Where have i condoned those actions? Nowhere.



I permit you to take that back at your leisure.

The truth hurts does it not.

no it doesn't.



But papal bull stinks.



I believe i was condoning the shouting of easy easy and enjoying our success, and you have taken it upon yourself to interpret that as condoning violence.



Truly vexing.

Where has he said he condones it

He doesnt say, 'you've got to be a bit arrogant at the top...and the only way to do this is by throwing bottles left right and centre'. He may have meant 'you've got to be arrogant a bit at the top....and the only way to do that it to stand by the exit with flame throwers and burn all oppositing fans' if you wanna make up what someone says

Being arrogant does throw it open to idiots in the stand to take it the wrong way. By being aggressive to the point of throwing objects at opposition fans. Which in turn gets their back up and take it out on our fans stood close to them. Until these small minded "Scrotes" are rounded up and ejected it will carry on.

Aye am not disagreeing with what your saying at all, am just say i think you took what PBW wrote a little too out of context to be fair to the lad.

aw thanks tommy. Sniff sniff.



Arrogance is c ronaldo, the australian cricket team, winners, with pomp and a swagger. Not for everyone.



Violence is violence.



That isn't out of context, thats completely losing the plot.