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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"turner has been really poor in the wigan and cas games. if he is england class we must be worse than i thought'"
Indeed! The guy he replaced now back at his home club must be at least one who is higher in the pecking order.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Turner was abysmal against Wigan IMO, his defence was shambolic.'"
Well he certainly did a better job than Lomax, Makinson, Jones, and Dawson in the game. And the stats back that up.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Well he certainly did a better job than Lomax, Makinson, Jones, and Dawson in the game. And the stats back that up.'"
Just shows that stats don't tell the whole story, Lomax was probably our best player.
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| Kirke was rested on Monday.
Beware Saints he's gunning for ya!
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Just shows that stats don't tell the whole story, Lomax was probably our best player.'"
Your kidding? he is a great player, and having a great season, but he was absolutely shocking against Wigan.
I understand he had a better game against Widnes 
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Just shows that stats don't tell the whole story, Lomax was probably our best player.'"
Definitely our best player. Turner was awful defensively and nothing really came off in attack for him. Bateman murdered him.
Whether Kyle Amor plays on Saturday will be the biggest factor as to whether we can win or not. If he doesn't play, I don't see us having the firepower to down Leeds on their own midden. If he plays and in tandem with Walmesley gets us on the front foot early then we've got a chance.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Your kidding? he is a great player, and having a great season, but he was absolutely shocking against Wigan.
I understand he had a better game against Widnes
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I'm really starting to wonder whether you watched the Saints Wigan game!
Anyway, back on subject our centres will need to show huge improvement defensively if we are to contain Leeds. For some reason LEeds were reticent to shift the ball at Langree, I can't see them adopting the same approach at Headingley.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"I'm really starting to wonder whether you watched the Saints Wigan game!'"
I must not have done, as I thought Lomax was really poor.
But then again, don't forget when I said Turner had a good game I was talking about attacking. When you pointed out defence I double checked to the stats, which as I said show he was the better of the Saints backs in this regards.
Personally, I think because of how good a player Lomax is, and home grown, Saints fans may well have a little of the rose tinted specs when it comes to his true performances. You are not alone, we have them here with Leeds players also.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I must not have done, as I thought Lomax was really poor.
But then again, don't forget when I said Turner had a good game I was talking about attacking. When you pointed out defence I double checked to the stats, which as I said show he was the better of the Saints backs in this regards.
Personally, I think because of how good a player Lomax is, and home grown, Saints fans may well have a little of the rose tinted specs when it comes to his true performances. You are not alone, we have them here with Leeds players also.'"
In the Wigan game, lomax was outstanding in attack, but very poor in defence. He was incredibly laboured moving to cover at full back for at least 2 of the Wigan tries - he should of snuffed them out long before Wigan got any support to the ball carrier.
That said lomax has been generally one of our best players this year (so has jones, but for some inexplicable reason is always over looked by the saints fans)
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"I'm really starting to wonder whether you watched the Saints Wigan game!
'" Welcome to Southstander, we all have similar issues with gotcha, bless his cotton socks.
Really looking forward to this game.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I must not have done, as I thought Lomax was really poor.
But then again, don't forget when I said Turner had a good game I was talking about attacking. When you pointed out defence I double checked to the stats, which as I said show he was the better of the Saints backs in this regards.
Personally, I think because of how good a player Lomax is, and home grown, Saints fans may well have a little of the rose tinted specs when it comes to his true performances. You are not alone, we have them here with Leeds players also.'"
Just out of interest, where do you get match stats from?
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| Looking forward to this and with 2 games against the Pies plus an away trip to Cas Vegas in there aswell this will imo be the toughest period of our season outside the play offs.
Its the CC Leeds v ST's & imo form goes out of the window I just hope we play better than we did at LP with the ball especially.
I'm going for us by between 4/7 points.
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