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| Quote William Eve="William Eve"...This is a key reason why Kallum won't improve in Super League because he doesn't need to. He and the rest of the Leeds team can play like crap against another Top 4 contender and still pick up two points as they did last night.'"
As did the Wolves when they beat us, as have Saints & Wigan in most of their wins.
Other than Widnes & possibly Salford all SL teams seem to have gone backwards this year.
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| Quote Old Feller="Old Feller"As did the Wolves when they beat us, as have Saints & Wigan in most of their wins.
Other than Widnes & possibly Salford all SL teams seem to have gone backwards this year.'"
I agree, it's a competition-wide issue.
The Top teams aren't being tested, and what's even worse? The Top teams aren't even testing one another, as evidenced by the low-quality mistakeathon (albeit entertaining in a way) served up last night.
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| There was no excuse last night. The conditions could not have been better for fast open handling rugby. No wind, no rain, excellent firm,dry pitch.
Saints fans must (should ) be even more disgruntled than us having been brought up on the previous style of Saints play.
All they get now is a massive pack trundling it up the middle. Stop Walmsley, slow down the PTB & they are rubbish.
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| Quote Old Feller="Old Feller"There was no excuse last night. The conditions could not have been better for fast open handling rugby. No wind, no rain, excellent firm,dry pitch.
Saints fans must (should ) be even more disgruntled than us having been brought up on the previous style of Saints play.
All they get now is a massive pack trundling it up the middle. Stop Walmsley, slow down the PTB & they are rubbish.'"
Saints fans have been unhappy for a while, judging by comments on their forum. To their credit, many of them recognised the bilge served up by their team in 2014 even when they were SL champions. They are utterly dire and the most tedious of SL teams to watch at this present time. Shouldn't be anywhere near the Top 4 come end of season but they will be.
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| just my opinion but with the floods at kirstall training ground it must be a bit of a ball ache training here there and not having the luxuries of what they where used to. sooner they get the training ground sorted the better cant be easy. anybody heard when its gonna be sorted and g4 pitch refitted .
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| Quote Stevosfalseteeth="Stevosfalseteeth"Hall looks shot. Can't catch, and is way too big for a winger.'"
Of all the back five, he's my main concern. I reckon he and we have been lucky that many of our opponents have opted to kick to Handley. That won't last, unless RH's form picks up and the results could be very embarrassing.
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"Of all the back five, he's my main concern. I reckon he and we have been lucky that many of our opponents have opted to kick to Handley. That won't last, unless RH's form picks up and the results could be very embarrassing.'"
The alleged enforced break due to injury might be the kick up the backside he needs. Hopefully, he won't waste that time experimenting with his hair dye solutions.
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| Hall's inability to catch is because the training ground got flooded.
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Hall's inability to catch is because the training ground got flooded.'"
That was only so we could practice bringing on the sub! 
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| He seems to have lost a bit of pace as well. All well and good having nice footwork, but you gotta get through the gap
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| didn't look too slow to me at Catalans a few weeks ago. if its in regards to him being caught by Dawson watch it back, he thinks he is been chased by the inside defender only and doesn't know Dawson is behind him, he was cruising.
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| Quote Biff Tannen="Biff Tannen"didn't look too slow to me at Catalans a few weeks ago. if its in regards to him being caught by Dawson watch it back, he thinks he is been chased by the inside defender only and doesn't know Dawson is behind him, he was cruising.'"
I agree. Shocking complacency though.
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