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| Quote doc-rhino="doc-rhino"what if leeds had taken a quick drop out'"
I said that at the time. Even the saints players didn't seem to appeal until the fans behind the goal saw the replay on the big screen and went mental - makes the ref look a joke to me.
As for the decision - at the game I couldn't tell owt from the big screen but having seen the replay I think Tvoc is spot on in his summary on Pg1
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| i do sometimes think the video ref refuses to look at the full picture, if he was asked to see if the ball was grounded before the line then thats all he looks for
in the nfl if a play is reviewed EVERYTHING is looked at and a decision made and perhaps that needs to be the same for super league
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| Quote Andy R="Andy R"I have no problem with Bentham. As i said after Wembley I'd rather they got these big decisions right even if it's against protocol. I still think he should have gone to the video ref for the scrum with 3 mins left in the Cup FInal though.
On the try it was prob a knock on for me. He seemed to flick it forwards with his hand under it at one point. I don't mind itg being given. I think the Dixon one could have been given and one each way seemed to even itself out to me'"
So let me get this right. The Dixon try was, in your opinion, wrongly ruled out? So therefore, at the next vaguely diffciult decision Saints should be awarded a try?
No no no no no.
This just makes it worse. Thaler thinks he got the first one wrong so just 'gives' a try for the second one to even it up!
If Leeds were to score a lucky try, lets say a kick that comes off a defender into a Leeds players arms, should we then let the other team score to 'even itself out'?
Two wrongs dont make a right.
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| First, as others have said, if Webb deals with the kick through when he has chance this thread never happens.
Other than that, there is an issue with the referral system here, can the video ref only look at what he's asked to look at, does anyone know? If so, it was probably a try for me, as any micr-knock-on before hand would have been too pedantic for my liking. However, had he looked at the wider situation, the ball was dead.
On the Dixon no-try, I thought not giving it was one of those over-pedantic video ref decisions. I'sd have given that one. A'd as soon not see tries ruled out for offside against people having no influence on the play.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"In addition Webb was in contact with the ball while he was out of play which should have made the ball dead in any case. '"
The knock on is debatable, the above is beyond dispute.
Video refs: get rid for me. I can stomach errors by the on field ref, however wrong, but when the VRs continue to get decisions of this magnitude wrong, what's the point in employing them?
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"if webb had done his job this thread wouldn't be here. he goes from the sublime to the awful in minutes'"
Very true. What the feck was he playing at, not touching it down? He was never going to prevent a drop out with the tackler that close on wet ground.
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"if webb had done his job this thread wouldn't be here. he goes from the sublime to the awful in minutes'"
Agree entirely with this for me.
Biggest dissapointment was the second try. Having over ruled his own decision by listenting to the touch judge for the 1st one, he then goes and ignores him when the touch judge correctly points out the offside for the scrum leading to the second try.
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"if webb had done his job this thread wouldn't be here. he goes from the sublime to the awful in minutes'"

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| The silly thing about Webbs leave, was that he had already touched it, meaning it would have been a drop out anyway. Had he not touched it, I could sort of see why he did it, but we would have felt the ball hit him, and should have then made it dead
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| Poor decision by Ian Smith, only he knows how much it might have been influenced by the Dixon decision but I suspect it played a part. This is an official who's had his issues with Saints in the past don't forget.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Poor decision by Ian Smith, only he knows how much it might have been influenced by the Dixon decision but I suspect it played a part. This is an official who's had his issues with Saints in the past don't forget.'"
It would help if you knew who the video referee was before making a statement like that.
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| Quote Road To Nowhere="Road To Nowhere"It would help if you knew who the video referee was before making a statement like that.'"
Apologies - I honestly don't know why Ian Smith popped into my head there. Clearly I need to cut back on the Benylin for this cold.
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