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Wary of reading much into this. This is a return home to finish his career. From that point of view the chance to keep playing in the NRL until he's 34 is too good to turn down. May well always have been in his plans to do this in the end. There is an absence of any real indication that the ship is sinking.
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Wary of reading much into this. This is a return home to finish his career. From that point of view the chance to keep playing in the NRL until he's 34 is too good to turn down. May well always have been in his plans to do this in the end. There is an absence of any real indication that the ship is sinking.
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They're a great success story apparently - a club to be emulated by all others. Indeed, their chairman's words are worthy of a zen master. 
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They're a great success story apparently - a club to be emulated by all others. Indeed, their chairman's words are worthy of a zen master.
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| Quote Fetlar="Fetlar"They're a great success story apparently - a club to be emulated by all others. Indeed, their chairman's words are worthy of a zen master.
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If SuperLeague was made up of 14 clubs in the same predicament as Wigan (or Leeds), then the league would be in a much, much healthier state. |
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| Quote Wheels="Wheels"If SuperLeague was made up of 14 clubs in the same predicament as Wigan (or Leeds), then the league would be in a much, much healthier state.'"
But Leeds and Wigan are not interchangeable examples. Sure, they both enjoy excellent support and are located within the best catchment areas for youth development. But only one of them got all the plaudits this week: the one with scant recent success, an exodus of their best players and a gorilla for a coach. Bizarre. |
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| Quote Fetlar="Fetlar"but only one of them got all the plaudits this week: the one with scant recent success, an exodus of their best players and a gorilla for a coach. Bizarre.'"
it's interesting to note that we still have 10 players who played for us in the 2008 GF coming up to 5 years later on. Barely 2 years on from Wigan's 2011 CC success and only 7 of the team that played in the final will be at DW next year (at the moment). |
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| Quote El Diablo="El Diablo"I thought about this randomly last night. The one assumption that has gone largely unchallenged through this is that the local populations are too small to support separate clubs in Cas and Wakey. Is that really true though? Surely Cas is a club built on the power it had to draw an obscenely large percentage of it's local community into the ground. What happened to that? Can it be recaptured? There are 40k people in Cas (give or take), another 30k or so in Ponte Carlo. 80k in Wakey, then places like Normanton etc. With no football league clubs, and all that heritage is it really impossible to get 20k or so regular punters through 2 sets of turnstiles?
Granted it isn't happening at the moment, but could the imagination of those communities be re-captured? Or have times moved on too much?
I have a sense that Wakey's fan base may have been a little more disenchanted and drifted a little further, but surely as a sport we should at least make a push to get those fans back before we write them off?
There are parallels in other sports where relatively small populations have been rallied behind a sports club. Lens, Hoffenheim and Green Bay spring to mind. Obviously very different contexts, but that's OK, we need smaller numbers and much smaller revenues than they do.
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When was the last season that Castleford and Wakefield averaged >10k a game during a season? has it ever actually happened? We need to be realistic about what is possible |
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The Wigan production line, as good as it is, cant be endless. There has to come a point when they feel the effects of all these departures. Tomkins,S will be the interesting one to replace.
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Why do they need our players if their league is so much better? |
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The success of the likes of Ellis, Graham and Burgess (plus the relative changes in the salary cap) are making NRL sides look towards SL for forwards. They would have gone for them previously had the cap been in their favour in the past.
There's no sign at all of NRL clubs looking to SL for backs. Even Tomkins would be seen as a huge gamble. If and when someone like Tomkins goes to the NRL and is a big success, other NRL clubs would undoubtedly follow.
Its exactly the same reason why SL clubs are still hunting around NRL reserve grades for players.
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