No you don't.

But you may have a lifetime contract such as the one I have with DWP.

Sadly it's not perpetual.

Well, sadly for me at least, if nobody else.

All I have done is pitched my positive judgement of the coach against your negative judgement. And history has shown who made the right call.



With regard to the introduction of young players there is nothing puzzling about it. The coaches have proven that they will introduce youngsters but only when they (and thank goodness not you) think they are ready to step up to SL.

Which coaches "proved" this? And isn't the point here about comparison to what other coaches would do, not supporters?

I have no problems about my own negative views at that moment in time they were more than valid given what id watched and the performances of that time.

Also lets not get too giddy JC he along with the team should be more consistent in terms of competing in regular SL rounds and the rotation policy was found wanting more than once.

Of course im chuffed we have had the success but that doesnt mean we shouldnt strive for better and im happy i was wrong re-sacking him because ultimately that means we tasted some great success under his tenure.

He does have some big challenges inbound with our Props and IF he sees out the next 2/3 years the inevitable departures of Sinfield et al.

Carl Ablett.



2004 1 sub appearance. 2005 5 appearances for London on loan. 2006 6 sub appearances. 2007 13 sub appearances. It was 2008 at 23 yrs of age that Ablett became a 1st team regular. A patient approach that has more than paid off.



Danny McGuire



2001 2 sub appearances. 2002 8 sub appearances and 1 start. 2003 at 21 years of age he becomes a 1st team regular.



Kevin Sinfield



1997 2 sub appearances. 1998 2 sub appearances. 1999 he becomes a 1st team regular at 19 though most of his appearances were from the bench.



Now, McGuire and Sinfield are once in a generation players but both were handled with patience and in a manner that the club has continued to practice with all of it's juniors.



In fact, the club is doing exactly the opposite of what you say. Stevie Ward was given more games last year at 18 years of age than Sinfield, Ablett and McGuire got collectively in their debut seasons. Watkins got 5 games in his first year and 14 in his second.



I'm not entirely sure what your point is. That probably makes two of us.

...make that 3 of us. Some good points there.

My comment was in reply to a specific point made by nantwich who was "puzzed" that certain players where not given enough chances. As BM has given several other young players a regular place it would suggest he considers nantwich's selections not yet ready for the step up.



I am not interested in speculating on what other coaches may or may not do because as the coach of twice running SL Champions and World Club Champions he has rather proven his credentials and management rather well.



You said.....

[i"He can't move away from what we currently have. Or at least it appears that way".[/i

....which is not correct as he has given regular spots to the ones I mentioned.



To suggest replacing our best and Champion players for some promising juniors is not the way to win trophies. Having said that I am sure BM will give the best youngsters a chance when he is sure they are ready.

Nice to see you have come around to realising we have got a very good coach.





We all watch and form different views and judgements. If getting the call right about our coach equates to being giddy what does getting the call wrong equate to?



I am sure BM will be planning to get more consistency this season and I feel sure he can achieve it. (I have tipped us for a top of table finish)

I have to admit in his first season I wasn't a big fan and was fairly vocal in my critisism of our coach, ending up with egg on my face! Last year and learnt my lesson and gave him the chance he deserved. Yes week in week out form was scratchy but we got the only thing that matters, trophy's and finals.

I have actually grown to like McDermott. And judging by Fridays game can see weekly form improving.

I am friends with one of our pack and he tells me they try there best every week last year but sometimes they were just knackered.



Which goes along with my own experiences from when I competed. I was in the GB team and it was all about tapering at certain times to be at your peak when in mattered. At regional level I was sometimes being beat by people who shouldn't have been beating me. But I was in heavy training and peaked at internationals when it matters.

Something Leeds have done very well at over the last few years

McDermott is worthy of some respect....but please don't ever make the mistake of revering somebody with an extreme of blind faith: believe me it's not healthy

To be honest, I wasn't keen on him in his first season. He seemed awkward in interviews, came out with strange comments, played with rubber gloves and stood over at the floodlight at Odsal.



But I thought his post match interview after Wembley 2011 when he passionately defended the players he really started to grow on me. He's seems more relaxed in interviews and seems to have a decent dry sense of humour at times.



The only time since then I went a bit back on my opinion of him was when he criticised the players for the home loss to Saints last year. They were plenty of games when the players were to blame but on this occasion when he failed to bring Lunt on and gave Griffin and Clarkson small cameos I think he really dropped the ball trying to win a game with only 14 men.



And that is really my only lasting niggle with McDermott, his use of the subs bench. He got it wrong way too many times last year, both Lunt and Clarkson showed what they could do when given decent time against Catalans and Wigan in the playoffs off the bench, but too often subs are limited to very small minutes.



I'm quite happy that he usually picks what he believes to be his strongest 17, i'd rather see that than be at Warrington watching a team missing 4,5,6 first teamers who have been rested, especially when the reason for resting them (saving them for a possible GF appearance) didn't pay off.

Not sure what you are trying to demonstrate here, or which point you are making. Assuming your facts are correct, you have just backed up my point exactly, so thank you.



In fact you went further, by even showing in the one post, the alarming shift in the development stages of academy products at the club over the years.



Could I also ask why your facts were not extended? What about Burrow, Calderwood, Bailey, Diskin, Morley, Ward, Scruton? we could go on, but you know the players yourself.



To emphasise my point again, the key is to give players opportunities early in career to understand what they need to work on further, and to give them the further focus of taking over those shirts.