Sorry for the late reply, have been working long hours all week.







Not teach you to read in West Yorkshire? Craven Park will be a 4 sided stadium with both the North and South having new stands to match or better the facilities at Headingley.







I didn't say there where any wooden seats in the Carnegie stand, I class a stand along the long side of the pitch that is not standing as any clubs "best" stand. More comfortable than plastic seats? Ok then let's run with that excuse!!!



The Western Terrace that I have stood on for the past 6 years is no better than standing at Featherstone. So considering you're a club that makes profit year on year (in the Hetherington world of accounting) why are Leeds running on a par with a financially troubled Championship club in relation to that stand?



I hope your South Stand is rebuilt and I hope not replaced with a soul-less plastic stand. I love the old stadia but it is always nice to keep up with the times on certain things like a roof which given the time you've been at the top of the game should have been forthcoming many years ago.







Are you really comparing your Carnegie stand to other stadiums in the country like the KC and DW? When all is said and done you have 3 very poor (in comparison to the all singing all dancing stadia built within the past 13 years) stands that would be lucky to get a SL licence if it were not for the club playing in the middle of them. You have one stand that I accept is a great facility but would not class it as second in line only to Wembley within the Rugby League stadia circle! That is a statement straight from the Gary Hetherington PR machine and it looks like some Leeds fans take it hook, line and sinker!



As I stated I like the feel of older stadia compared to the new places like Hudds, Wigan, Hull...etc and places like Widnes, Saints, Salford and Leigh have even less feeling to them. But when criticism is thrown at HKR due to the distance from the pitch that stand is and how it is uncovered, especially when it comes from Leeds fans, it is only to be expected to get some criticism back. The ground was designed to be the home of dog racing and then speedway, it was not designed for the sole use of a Rugby League club.



Easty posted the pictures of what you should be sitting in as of next season however the completion date isn't while August so more than likely you will be given that same stand next year too depending on how the fixtures fall. From 2014 there should be building work going on down at the South end of the ground which will hopefully house what we are hearing, something unique to the sport and the area. My guess is a 50mtr pool and world class squash facility with hotel and corporate facilities but let's see when it is announced!



For what it is worth I will still be attending Headingley, come rain or shine, crumbling steps or shiny new seats! I go to support my team and will watch the match in greater detail on HKR.tv during the week!

Are you really throwing football grounds into the mix??

Care to expand the "Hetherington world of accounting" bit?

Whatever your plans for CP good for you but until they're done visting fans can offer their opinions on the state of the ground they've visited thus far just as you are freely chelping about ours.

As for the "lucky to get a SL licence" bit PMSL you'd still be in Championship 1 then old lad if that were the ONLY criteria for the Licences.

I don't entirely disagree with a lot of what you've said, but you haven't covered yourself in glory here.



1) Having one stand that is on a par with Fev is a pretty poor equation with the whole thing being on a par with Fev (it's quite a bit bigger than its Fev equivalent, by the way).



2) Perhaps we make a profit year on year because we don't keep splashing out cash on white elephant rennovation projects every 10 minutes.



3) The accounts are filed in the real world, so I am not sure what the "Hethrington World of Accounting" means? Perhaps you can elaborate, otherwise that might sound a bit like bitterness to some readers.



4) Most Leeds fans would love to see the Western Terrace redeveloped. There are, however, significant issues around how tightly it is squeezed by neighbouring housing and the public right of way across the back, which make planning a bit tricky. I'd still rather have that stand than move to a soulless purpose built ground on a retail park though.

Surely you would class the stand with the most expensive seats in it as the "best stand"?



Every other part of the stadium has had work done on it over the last 20 years, do you really think that they wouldn't have put new seats in if it was needed? The fact is the season ticket holders who sit in those seats have been repeatedly asked their views and they say the wooden seats are more comfortable than sitting in plastic seats, and having been on a couple of corporates before I would agree with them.





I'm sorry, you originally said the Western Terrace is crumbling, have you changed your mind? I'd love to know, other than a roof, how standing could be improved on the Western Terrace? So by comparing it to Fev you are basically saying there isn't a roof. Well spotted. Did you also spot the public walkway right behind the stand and the housing right behind the public walkway?

The "Hetherington world of accounting"? Don't throw slurs around just because your own club can't add up.





So in 8 years we should have bought the houses behind the stand, negotiated with council re the public footpath, passed planning permission, designed, financed and built effectively a new stand? I see why you support KR now.







try reading it again. I never compared the spectators view to any ground. I said, and would maintain (having been on corporates at Headingley, KC, DW & the Galpharm, and from the feedback from other people on corporates), that Headingley's hospitality and corporate facilities are the best of any rugby league stadium bar Wembley. That's why we are twice the size of your club. Don't talk such rubbish re the SL licence, you're embarrassing yourself.





I think the distance from the pitch and the uncovered nature of the stand at KR are legitimate criticisms. Don't you? Just like away fans criticism of the Western Terrace being uncovered is a legitimate criticism. Just don't make up bull about the rest of the stadium just because you feel protective over Craven Park.

Oh, and having sat in both, the wooden seats are definitely more comfortable. Whether that's the reason they're still there I don't know.

Leeds fans should in no way feel superior to any other group of supporters regarding the facilities at Headingley. Three sides of the ground are an embarrassment for the biggest club within the game - perhaps this is a Leeds thing, Elland Rd is equally shabby.



The North stand - hasn't had any money spent on it in living memory - and viewing is restricted in all but the central third of the upper tier i.e. where the coaches sit. Not sure what the corporate clients think if they are used to the likes of the Galpharm.



The Carneige is a brilliant stand but viewing in the standing area isn't fantastic.



The Southstand is an iconic viewing location but more could be done with its infrastructure.



The Western terrace is simply an embarrassment

Carnegie terrace is a very good view.



If you get in before kickoff and like the behind the post view.

Sal, what's wrong with the corporate facilities? I've only been in once and I'm no expert, but I was quite impressed.



Oh, and I can remember the plastic seats replacing the old paddock standing in the North Stand. I'm not that old. That cost money, I assume. Just saying.

The Western Terrace is home to a brand new score board and quite a big telly - I wouldn't call those an embarrassment.

You must be much younger than I gave you credit for.



The North Stand had a new roof in 2004 and, of course, the paddock was seated in 1991 (ish) at which time the entire infrastructure underneath the stand was also rebuilt almost from scratch.



Is it ideal? No. But it's had a lot of money spent on it all the same.

We can't do much to the North Stand without YCCC having their say. I heard that when Leeds Cricket, Football and Athletic Company sold the cricket ground to YCCC there was an agreement that the North Stand would be redeveloped as part of a joint venture.



The YCCC then went and blew all their dosh on the pig-ugly stand thing and had nowt left for the North Stand redevelopment.

The Western Terrace is appalling yes it has a screen but exposed to the elements? even Halifax and Leigh don't subject their fans to that?



I appreciate there is nothing that can done - but it doesn't give Leeds fans much to crow about when critisising other grounds.