Colour me deluded then.



Maybe not champions but any three of those would have acheived far "better" with this squad of players.

How, Gareth?



What would they have done differently to drag better performances out of the likes of Webb, Bailey, Lauitiiti etc - to name just three of those players who are clearly on the slide?

Maybe we might have a decent attacking structure. The squad may be on the slide player by player but certainly not to the extent that it has been showing this season. We are completely clueless and have been all year. It's time for a change IMO.

P.S.



Not Noble please Gary. The sides he coaches are always boring biff ballers, and he hates this club with a passion.

So are you saying our players was always clueless and the results were all just down to a good coach?



Missed tackles, knock on's, forward passes and lack of pace are surely down to the players. JJB, Buderus and Sinfield (for most of the time) have played very well as have Burgess, Hardaker, BJB with big improvement from McShane and Watkins. Are you saying these are not doing what the coach wants yet all the bad performers are?

Individual performances will always vary but how the team perform as a collective falls squarely under the remit of the coach. It is quite clear that some coaches are capable of getting their teams to perform beyond the sum of their individual parts, but Brian Mac is not in this category. I suspect the players are going out and working hard but they need to be well-prepared, motivated & have a structured plan. Errors tend to occur when things aren't going well for the team and individuals are under pressure - if the team is poorly coached there will be more individual errors, it is that simple.

Too much ecstacy?

Coached them better? I know that simplistic but isn't it obvious? If you're asking for te various methods involved then if I knew I'd obviously be doing it, or telling Mcdermott how to do it.



Andy Hay, Marvin Golden, Jamie Mathiou (spit), Paul Sterling and many others were average players coached well about their limits by Graham Murray.



Quins regressed each season under McDermott. Leeds like like they will regress on last year. He's a coach that takes teams backwards. I am sure they will be a plethora of reasons/excuses why but nevertheless there's a bad small about huim and it's starting to stick. Some coaches take jobs and their teams kick on (Murray. Smith.Mclennan even). Then there's McDermott.

By extending this logic only a little further, you could save money by just not having a coach at all. A team with no overall structure and game plan will rapidly become a beaten team, and a demoralised team, and the errors will come.



If that structure and cohesion are not the coach's job, then what exactly is the coach's job.

McDermott and Lowes may well be your problem.

Isn't a bigger problem the man who appointed them?

Everyone saw what McD did at Quins, they were bottom of the league contenders all season.

Did anyone at Leeds seriously think McD and Lowes would coach your team (or any team) into the top four?

Absolutely no chance!

The appointment of McDermott and Lowes was dreadful and your club are now reaping the consequencies.

Hetherington is the man responsible, no one else.

If he hates the club, why did he admit - off the record - that he wanted the Leeds job? Whether or not he would have got it, I don't know - but he's certainly admitted to wanting a crack at it before....

Too young mate, too young