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What you heard CS?
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"The money will be extracted from Hardaker.
As he committed the first repudiatory breach of contract (be getting faced on alcohol and class A), the club were well within their rights to dismiss him. However, Because he committed the repudiatory breach, he is liable for any financial loss caused by this. In this case, the £150k that it cost to buy him and indeed the cost of his replacement.
The precedent here is the Adrian Mutu case. He failed a drugs tests (cocaine) and was sacked by Chelsea, who then recovered the cost of his transfer fee (£13m) and also the cost of replacing him (£22m). Mutu appealed to every court possible but failed every time. His breach of contract left him personally liable for all Chelsea’s financial loss, including “the wasted costs of acquiring the Player and the cost of replacing the Player” (quoted directly from the court judgement).'"
If you're citing the Mutu case as a precedent then it's worth noting that Mutu was only held liable for around 40% of the £35m figure you've stated. In any case, I suspect that were Cas to pursue this, all that'll happen is that ZH will declare himself bankrupt and they'll be left with a legal bill to foot. |
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Guys, can I please ask that the Gary Lo sacking / dismissal / release "rumours" aren't spread on here.
I'm not being a killjoy, I think that most people are aware of the rumours circulating at the moment and TBF if they are true then its a shocker, however until such time as there is an official presser stating such "facts" then please DO NOT POST THEM!
Such posts are against the AUP we all signed up to when we joined these forums.
If in doubt, please contact any of the MODS on RFLFANS who can advise.
Cheers
ESR
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"The money will be extracted from Hardaker.
As he committed the first repudiatory breach of contract (be getting faced on alcohol and class A), the club were well within their rights to dismiss him. However, Because he committed the repudiatory breach, he is liable for any financial loss caused by this. In this case, the £150k that it cost to buy him and indeed the cost of his replacement.
The precedent here is the Adrian Mutu case. He failed a drugs tests (cocaine) and was sacked by Chelsea, who then recovered the cost of his transfer fee (£13m) and also the cost of replacing him (£22m). Mutu appealed to every court possible but failed every time. His breach of contract left him personally liable for all Chelsea’s financial loss, including “the wasted costs of acquiring the Player and the cost of replacing the Player” (quoted directly from the court judgement).'"
Cheers NT I hope Cas get their £150K back as a minimum. |
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Not surprising given what I've heard.'"
Do you think its true or do you think its noncense?
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"In fairness, his employment is pretty irrelevant. If Cas bring a case and win, he becomes liable for the cost regardless of income, whether this be earnings from a new contract or recovery of assests etc (or indeed a combination of both).'"
This.
See also the recent Denny Solomona case which Cas 'won'.
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| Quote Lebron James="Lebron James"Do you think its true or do you think its noncense?
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"If you're citing the Mutu case as a precedent then it's worth noting that Mutu was only held liable for around 40% of the £35m figure you've stated. In any case, I suspect that were Cas to pursue this, all that'll happen is that ZH will declare himself bankrupt and they'll be left with a legal bill to foot.'"
I remember it being reduced, but I thought they only reduced the amount he had to pay back in terms of his own transfer fee. This was because although they paid £22m, he had actually played for the club and therefore Chelsea had some “value” from his fee, so couldn’t claim it had all been wasted.
In terms of Hardaker it’s different. Cas had him on loan until the end of the season anyway. Consequently, we saw no value from the £150k whatsoever.
If anything, Cas’ biggest mistake was paying the fee earlier than necessary. Knowing his history, common sense would have disctated leaving it as long as possible before paying the fee. |
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And what chance has Zac got keeping his nose clean signing for them ? That Joel has always been a bit naughty
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Zac is not as thick as he would have you believe - hopefully he has learned a valuable lesson during his enforced exit
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really? he's not learnt after considerable other episodes.
thick as a whale omelette that lad
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Don't worry, the Wigan club has a culture where players are looked after. Like trying to pay off witnesses and cover things up. All good news for Zak.
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