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Some surprising ones there, I really question the Mose ones, looked great on the night!
Sia and Robes the stars
Richards and Thompson did very well
LMS much improved, great effort, looked in real pain throughout too
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Some surprising ones there, I really question the Mose ones, looked great on the night!
Sia and Robes the stars
Richards and Thompson did very well
LMS much improved, great effort, looked in real pain throughout too
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| Another questionable stat (with Mose's) are Wello's, great mtrs and carries but only 3 tackles and 2 missed? doesnt sound at all like Wello!
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| Luke Walsh six missed tackles! Is that a record for one player?! Good job that some of the 13 he made were absolutely vital. Spares his blushes a bit!
Stats are interesting but they don't tell the full story of the game. Wello was nothing special defensively but his presence was crucial IMO. Likewise with Walsh and his organising. We would have fallen apart without those two and Robes once the injuries started to bite.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"Another questionable stat (with Mose's) are Wello's, great mtrs and carries but only 3 tackles and 2 missed? doesnt sound at all like Wello!'"
Wello's missed tackles are correct!
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| mose didn't take the ball up much, and his tackles were generally third man in flops.
His performance was not satisfactory IMO.
Last week he put the effort in. This week he was in dos mode.
His pre season injury cannot be used as an excuse anymore. Last week showed he was now upto hitting a higher level. The fact he hasn't done so, shows a lack of application.
I think Saints are in a bit of a bind re Mose, in that when we have a fit pack he should not be in the side due to lack of application. However there is no A team for him to serve his penance. So by not playing him, he would just pile weight on and lose fitness due to lack of any match action.
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| Quote The Chair Maker="The Chair Maker"mose didn't take the ball up much, and his tackles were generally third man in flops.
His performance was not satisfactory IMO.
Last week he put the effort in. This week he was in dos mode.
His pre season injury cannot be used as an excuse anymore. Last week showed he was now upto hitting a higher level. The fact he hasn't done show, shows a lack of application.
I think Saints are in a bit of a bind re Mose, in that when we have a fit pack he should not be in the side due to lack of application. However there is no A team for him to serve his penance. So by not playing him, he would just pile weight on and lose fitness due to lack of any match action.'"
At last someone has noticed what I've been saying all season 
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| Quote St pete="St pete"At last someone has noticed what I've been saying all season
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You weren't at the match last night and you weren't at the match last week, and you haven't seen either match on TV either, so you are making a fool of yourself.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"You weren't at the match last night and you weren't at the match last week, and you haven't seen either match on TV either, so you are making a fool of yourself.'"
Exactly and that's why I've quoted in my posts that I'll see it when I beeline it as I haven't seen the games
I also read how the man himself admitted he's been taken super league lightly so obviously he thinks his form isn't up to what it should be.
I've yet to see him play well once for saints, it seems I've missed his one game he played well. In fact, I don't think I've seen him make a one on one tackle this year, he continually comes in 3rd man.
I hated seeing Amor and walmsley doing the tough stuff, getting smashed while trying to get out our 20m zone while Mose walks back letting the play come to him.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"At last someone has noticed what I've been saying all season
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To be fair Pete, ive long noticed him being third man in.
I suspect that's a deliberate Saints tactic, as his size pretty much stops the opposition attacker from getting a quick play the ball. However for me such tackles should only class as one third of a tackle.
There may also be the psychological effect of opposition forwards not wanting to run at Masoe. I remember that used to happen re Vila Matautia. Could be quite funny seeing a forward run sideways to avoid getting smashed by Vila.
Its his offensive stats that were particularly poor. The kids all outshone him. A senior player should have personal pride in not wanting kids just out of their nappies like Richards and Thompson, make him look like a lard .
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Exactly and that's why I've quoted in my posts that I'll see it when I beeline it as I haven't seen the games
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Yeah, so don't talk so daft without first seeing things for yourself.
He did a great scoot from dummy half for instance (which was hilarious but also very effective) and played his full part in the try of the night. The team was madness in the second half, with Walsh orchestrating things the whole time, keeping us in some kind of order. Again, this is something you wouldn't know because you weren't there and you haven't seen the game. So you're better keeping your thoughts to yourself until you see the game otherwise you make yourself look a bit of a pratt.
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| Quote The Chair Maker="The Chair Maker"To be fair Pete, ive long noticed him being third man in.
I suspect that's a deliberate Saints tactic, as his size pretty much stops the opposition attacker from getting a quick play the ball. However for me such tackles should only class as one third of a tackle.
There may also be the psychological effect of opposition forwards not wanting to run at Masoe. I remember that used to happen re Vila Matautia. Could be quite funny seeing a forward run sideways to avoid getting smashed by Vila.
Its his offensive stats that were particularly poor. The kids all outshone him. A senior player should have personal pride in not wanting kids just out of their nappies like Richards and Thompson, make him look like a lard booty.'"
I think teams will want to run at him, it's called a spot set, players deliberately run at a player who is big and struggles with fitness as they are most likely be to tired to make tackles and takes the sting out of his running. Feka used to be a prime spot set target.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Yeah, so don't talk so daft without first seeing things for yourself.
He did a great scoot from dummy half for instance (which was hilarious but also very effective) and played his full part in the try of the night. The team was madness in the second half, with Walsh orchestrating things the whole time, keeping us in some kind of order. Again, this is something you wouldn't know because you weren't there and you haven't seen the game. So you're better keeping your thoughts to yourself until you see the game otherwise you make yourself look a bit of a pratt.'"
I've seen him nearly every single week at home and away.
If this was a Lms or laffranchi and not the smiling fans favourite Samoan then we'd be calling for his head.
Why make comment of him scooting? He's a pro rugby player, that comes with the job but make out like it's something special. Would you make comment if Amor, Sia or another forward made a scoot or did you make that comment because deep down you know it's very unlike Mose to do something like that as he's lazy.
Half the season in and I'd give him a 6 out of 10. He's on level par with the likes of LMS who's been avg at best.
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