As a fan from a rival club I am really suprised that KC is getting stick from some quarters.

Tonight was not a Saints performance.

The first 10 minutes it was a drop-a-thon. That's not something any coach would expect. Whether it's due to the players not getting their 'match heads' on or not, I'm not sure. Now that could be a coaching / management issue.



I rate KC, and actually after years of 'antics' Long seems to have settled down.

Things can turn around quickly.

This year has seen all sides have wobbles due to the nature of the comp.



I actually think there's 2 ways to look at this match.

1. Study in detail and show each player their pluses and minuses

or

2. Put it down to 'one of those things' and move on.

Both approaches have their merits - if you're not careful the negatives can become quite corrosive. That's the danger of 1.

In his time at Warrington, I believe Smith has used both approaches - albeit the 2nd one sparingly. I also think McDermott has done the same at Leeds.



Regarding the Cas match- it was nip and tuck and you have to credit Cas. I think they're starting to come into some really good form. (Hopefully Carney's defence doesn't mprove much !!).



To be honest we need a few of the top sides to slip up - it might allow us to stay in the top8 and sneak into the top 4 !



For the CC I think it'll be a fresh start and very close. This match will count for nothing - I still think you're more than capable of beating Leeds

The knee jerk is embarassingly wigan esq



It was an off day. Pure and simple. Get over it and move on



Regards



King James

It's a bit bit like stone, paper scissors and pie. We've had Leeds, Leeds have had Saints, Pies have had Leeds and you guys have had us. I only got back for the second half and was really surprised at the lead Leeds had. For me, their backs are the best in the league and with additions of Cuthbertson and Garbutt on his debut, they were able to match the size in your pack. I'm sure KC will sort it out. For a debut season, he's been pretty good and he always comes across as a descent genuine bloke. Walmsley a one man pack- outstanding player.

Matt Dawson is the worst player i have ever seen playing for Saints. Forget the 10 mistakes a game he makes with ball in hand. He clearly cannot master whether to come in or stay out. Like the fat kid at school who's fell in love with the class beauty. The lad will try but so out of his depth it's not actually fair on him.

Haha you got me again. To be fair that result tonight was the best thing that could of happened to us going into the semi final and the worst for Leeds. I honestly believe that.

Bookmarked!



See you in a few weeks

It's a bad result. Especially after the Castleford game. Lack of personnel is killing us in the backs. Whether our new addition can offer much assistance remains to be seen.



That said, it's important to remain philosophical. Leeds hadn't won at home against us in ages so a defeat shouldn't come as a surprise. A win in the cup and this game will be a very distant memory.

We have nothing to lose, massive under dogs.

Not in the league but we (leeds) have won cup and play off games against you in the last couple of years

Got to give credit to Leeds. Fantastic attacking team. Big, fast backs, intelligent half backs, strong forwards and they ooze big game experience.



Roby and Walmsley were excellent tonight but we just look so light and lack pace in the backs. There's plenty of improvement in us though.

By ages, you mean last season?

Time for me to get a bet on us winning. The odds were terrible tonight. as was the team.