St Helens will never win big games with Lance Hohaia in the side, awful player.

We were goi okay until McDonnell went off. But as with all to often this year, 1 tiny little thing throws them off kilter and next thing we know were 20 points down.



What was even more frustrating for me was I felt at half time we could really go on and recover and give one last big push, alas it was not to be. Nobody can really hold their heads up after that performance.



If McDonnell has broken his jaw, it just sums up our season. Swift to fullback? (thought his performance was a very dim bright point in the direness that was that performance - in at least he proved himself to be 10x better than Dawson, who is the definition of mediocre) or Wellens to fullback and Hewitt into the side? How much worse could it get? Wellens will get a lot of stick, but he actually created our only 2 try's which is more than can be said for our "real" halfback hohaia who offered precisely nothing, other than weak defence. Manu, Laffranchi and Soliola were very poor, lms, Flanaghan Amor and Masoe were completely anonymous. I still can't figure out who was playing where in the backs, and by the looks of it neither did they. Brown did himself absolutely no favours with his post match interview. He made me even more angry about it than I already am. There was absolutely no game plan, our kicking game was possibly the biggest embarrassment in a night of embarrassments. On the one hand you can say were missing our halfbacks, BUT that's precisely why we needed a clear and concise plan.



The only bright side is I'm off internet for the weekend...

you spoilt GIT !!!!!!!!!!!

in all honestly i think if saints hadn't been at the top of the table....our chairman would have sacked brown by now..

When was the last time he did anything he should. He hasn't got the balls to make a decision like that. He'll just continue making his ridiculous statements suggesting we're on the cusp of glory again. He won't face up to the mistakes he's made or do anything about them.

It's never too late to do the right thing!



It's Mike Rush who loves Brown. Wants him to stay on after next year. McManus trusts Rush. So I very much doubt McManus will sack Brown. Brown is secure and all the players can go home knowing they don't have to perform well to be guaranteed a spot next week.

I'm sure McManus will be back out at the play off game warning the players in the programme and acting the big man making his big threats. Then we'll be ritually humiliated and he'll shut up until the soundbite notes next year when the season opener at LP is looming.

Let's just think about that for a moment. It's the equivalent of football fans talking about a forward who 'does nothing in a game except score goals'.

quite clearly the shock of getting beat so covincingly has got to you?..???

Absolutely dreadful. I think that's the worst I've ever seen us. EVER.

Never mind the 68th minute they strolled for 75 mins out of the 80 mins. I,m blaming the players 100% for this shocking performance not the coaching staff not the chairman but every individual who was wearing a saints shirt on that pitch.



It was our last regular home game a derby against one of our local rivals for bragging rights and the best opportunity to win silverware with a large home crowd on your side.........you don,t need a coach or chairman to prepare for this, if you are professional then self motivation surfaces to make sure you perform at your best.



What we got was a very amateur lazy performance who surrendered to the opposition quite easily after 5 minutes, I,ve never seen so many dumb offensive and defensive plays in one single match before.



Our defensive line speed was non existent allowing warrington to make 10-15 metres on every play, Warrington were smart in knowing the ref was not policing the 10 metre rule and were 2-3 metres up before we played the ball putting us on the back foot'



One of the embarrassing moments was when Makinson dropped the ball on the kick return, 6 players put in a lot of effort to pat him on the back including Swift who ran 50 metres from the other side of the pitch to join in with the back slapping sympathy ceremony.



If we some how manage to win the league leaders shield we can thank the players for making this achievement as flat as a pancake after yesterdays game.

And after all that has been said you probably will get the LLS don't you think it just sums up this years Super League!