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| I think that Hock completely over-reacts in the scrum; why on Earth does he start throwing punches?! He looked like a bit of a prat doing that and he ultimately ignites something that has overshadowed the game really and could potentially have overshadowed the weekend.
Well done LMS who does not react (hence no action against him) to Hock's ridiculous 'losing his head' moment. Hock is an outstanding RL player, there is no denying that, but what happens if the Aussies wind him up and he reacts badly in a world cup semi/final as they are bound to try and wind him up? His ability is unquestionable, but what is questionable is his temperament and discipline and they are two crucial factors in international rugby.
As for Magennis: attacking Tuson was completely foolish and he got what he deserved really, but for Wigan fans to pin-point him in all of this is a little unfair as let's not forget what, or more appropriately who, started the whole thing.
As for biff I don't condone it really, but the risk of it happening is high because of the physicality of the sport; players do not go out onto the pitch to fight do they? Thankfully this is not the norm as incidents are rare.
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| Quote Albion="Albion"I think that Hock completely over-reacts in the scrum; why on Earth does he start throwing punches?! '"
Because he couldn't bring his club onto the field.
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| Hock is just another Newton. Its just a matter of time before he faces a long lay off again. Once an idiot always an idiot. Wigan fans can blah blah all they like they know it.
Hock 5-6 games for trying to head butt in the scrum and causing the whole thing and given his previous. IMHO this guy should never have been allowed to play RL again, I think the RFL is a Joke.
The others 2-3 games for handbags.
Personally I give Magennis +1 for at least having some passion unlike all the other jokers playing for Saints last night.
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| Quote Albion="Albion"As for biff I don't condone it really, but the risk of it happening is high because of the physicality of the sport; players do not go out onto the pitch to fight do they? Thankfully this is not the norm as incidents are rare.'"
Of course, it's going to happen from time to time. But when it does, the aggressors should receive appropriate bans and so should those who go over the top. LMS stood up to Hock in the scrum so Hock just saw red and start lashing out. Magennis and Tuson have a go at each other and Magennis lashes out at him. Both Hock and Magennis should cop the biggest bans as the aggressors. But then Tuson showed how not to react by wildly retaliating. Mossop then unecessarily threw one when everyone else was by then trying to stop it.
Wigan should probably lose Hock, Tuson and Mossop from the fight itself and McIllorum from the tackle after it and the loss of control he suffered. Not great behaviour given the game was over and their player was the cause of it all. I think that having so many in disciplinary trouble will probably either reduce the bans or negate them entirely in some cases. The RFL seems to have a quota system for bans and are unlikely to ban four from the same team. Leeds must be pretty excited about the disciplinary panel this week though. For us, I can see Magennis getting a decent ban and probably Wilkin, depending on how serious a look the RFL take at the game itself. They may decide they've filled their quota from the brawl and ignore Wilkin and McIllorum.
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| Lets hope magennis is banned for a good few games, I would rather Dixon in the team anyway. Or does Rush not like him either?
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Because he couldn't bring his club onto the field.'"

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| Sorry but i'm glad Magennis did what he did, About time someone stood up to the wigan pack.
Where is the Perry who beat the hell out of Peacock a few years ago?
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"Sorry but i'm glad Magennis did what he did, About time someone stood up to the wigan pack.
Where is the Perry who beat the hell out of Peacock a few years ago?'"
Sat on the bench where he spends most of his time.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"Sorry but i'm glad Magennis did what he did, About time someone stood up to the wigan pack.
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LMS did that but he used his brain as well, unlike Magennis, and so got no ban at all.
Not sure Magennis stood up to anyone actually. He just picked a fight so far as I could see. Had he actually been a really good player that would have resulted in his absence for 3 to 5 weeks.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"
Where is the Perry who beat the hell out of Peacock a few years ago?'"
Exactly....
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!" But to dismiss Hock's attempts to break LMS' nose in the scrum as 'just props doing what props do' is rather silly. Organised violence between forwards has been out of the game for 20 years now. There are enough avenues to channel legal aggression through in the game without allowing players to strike each other.
Anyone suggesting it's okay 'to have a bit of biff' need to wake up. A professional rugby player striking to the head could easily kill. All it takes is a bleed and we could see a player lose his life. It's a part of the game we don't need and shouldn't condone as 'biff' when it happens.
I think the RFL should send a message and use the three dualists as an example. Hock should get 5-6 given his previous, Magennis the same and Tuson 4. They should also ban McIllorum for his tackle after the incident and for his complete loss of control.'"
I take it you've never watched State of Origin.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"Sorry but i'm glad Magennis did what he did, About time someone stood up to the wigan pack.
Where is the Perry who beat the hell out of Peacock a few years ago?'"
Just wondering why you make storys up perry didnt knock the hell out of peacock. do you always tell lies? or is this a mod thing we have to agree with what you say or we get banned.Not saying he didnt get a couple of digs in but so did peacock.
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