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| Isnt there a law/rule whereby if a player doesnt play for a certain period of time due to injury, the club can tear up his contract?
Or have I dreamt it?
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| Quote Codarmysaint="Codarmysaint"Isnt there a law/rule whereby if a player doesnt play for a certain period of time due to injury, the club can tear up his contract?
Or have I dreamt it?'"
You can tear up any contract any time you want. You just have to agree a pay off with the other party.
But as mentioned any attempts to get out of Sia's contract would result in black marks for the club when it came to future signings.
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Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"You can tear up any contract any time you want. You just have to agree a pay off with the other party.
But as mentioned any attempts to get out of Sia's contract would result in black marks for the club when it came to future signings.'"
No. The poster above is right. You can 'sack' a player if he does not play for a period of time. Bradford did it with Tame Tupou.
However i hope Saints are better than that.
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... Tupou.html
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Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"You can tear up any contract any time you want. You just have to agree a pay off with the other party.
But as mentioned any attempts to get out of Sia's contract would result in black marks for the club when it came to future signings.'"
No. The poster above is right. You can 'sack' a player if he does not play for a period of time. Bradford did it with Tame Tupou.
However i hope Saints are better than that.
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... Tupou.html
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| Quote GiantJo="GiantJo"If a player is unavailable for 6 months I think the contract can be terminated according to RFL rules. This would leave you with little or no free cap space in 2010 but would free up the space for 2011. For a player so early in a 3 yr contract moving him on tends not to go down well with teammates / agents / other players etc.'"
I think the rules is only if the player ain't trained at the club for 6 months. Sia will be training by that time.
I think it's bit harsh saying, lets sack him as few have said on here. It's not his fault. We should find away of bringing another player in on short term deal if possible.
Over last few years we have wasted cap space with the likes of scully, cayless and now sia. All will be high paid players but thats rugby.
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| Quote Blobbynator="Blobbynator"With a 3 year contract, it's unfair to class Soliola as a risk at this stage. Sure he'll miss this season, but he may be fantastic for the next two and remain injury free.
Let's see what happens.'"
I like your logic!
The problem is that if he had given us two good injury free years followed by being out for a season, then its not the best result, but you can probably say that its not a disaster and you don't have to worry about the following season.
However, when the season long injury occurs in the first of the three years, you have got to worry and wonder about the wisdom of the signing especially as we are down to the bare bones in financial resources and he has "form" on the injury front.
I'm with Sants Fan on most of what he says in this post and in a minority, but if the best we can say about him is that he might have two good injury free years to come - well I wish I had your extreme optimism.
Put it this way, if he had been out all of last year with this injury, would we have optimistically signed him on a 2 year contract in the hope he would recover and be injury free?
We've signed him and hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I fear for the remaining two years and devasted that our team will be a lot weaker for the rest of the year
(bring back Gilly!)
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| Quote Codarmysaint="Codarmysaint"Isnt there a law/rule whereby if a player doesnt play for a certain period of time due to injury, the club can tear up his contract?
Or have I dreamt it?'"
Not sure. Best bet, ask Wigan about Karl Pryce 
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"
You're a doctor yourself then?'"
I don't think you need to be a doctor to read injury stats or to read what doctors write. I don't think he's suggesting he's done any of these operations himself do you?
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"And, since you are an expert, what exactly constitutes 'any serious possibility'? And how would you know that that is the criteria Saints used?'"
I know they certainly didn't take a punt on a 50/50 call. I also know that the club - in the wake of the Trindall fiasco - sought advice on its methods of medical assessment prior to the finalisation of contract and that those methods remain under constant review in light of the best medical advice available. In other words - Saints are doing their best to make sure we don't sign a crock again.
Quote SaintsFanYou're a doctor yourself then?'"
No. But unlike you, I do bother to [url=http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1249472-overviewdo some research before opening my mouth[/url.
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| I'm a bit late to this, but after reading this thread I am absolutely appalled by some of the unsupportive posts by some so called Saints fans. Can you imagine how devastated that lad is? What if he seen this thread-its not impossible. You wouldn't be like this if it was Eastmond or Roby that was ruled out.
Sia will be brewing all season now, kicking is heels, feeling absolutely gutted he can't play. He can do other stuff though, like going around schools inspiring young kids etc and settling more in a new country.
Next season, he'll be one hell of a player for us, and he'll want to make up for all the lost time sat on the sidelines.
Come on, lets be supportive. He's been very unlucky with injuries, but i'm confident he'll repay us with success in the next couple of seasons.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"No. But unlike you, I do bother to [url=http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1249472-overviewdo some research before opening my mouth[/url.'"
You've just made an assumption but when people are behaving OTT they usually do.
Since you're not a doctor, then, you have no more clue than you say - very graphically - that I do. Therefore I will show the same level of regard for what you say in this matter than you have shown for what I say.
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| Quote WindleSaint="WindleSaint"I'm a bit late to this, but after reading this thread I am absolutely appalled by some of the unsupportive posts by some so called Saints fans. Can you imagine how devastated that lad is? What if he seen this thread-its not impossible. You wouldn't be like this if it was Eastmond or Roby that was ruled out.'"
Personally, I don't feel anything towards Soliola (other than general sympathy) because he has only played for us for about 80 minutes. Eastmond and Roby have grown up with Saints and the latter has been playing for a few years now at first grade. The two examples are entirely different.
What I'm not, is sentimental or melodramatic. Unlike some Saints fans.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"What I'm not, is sentimental or melodramatic.'"
Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"What a complete waste of money.'"
Awful news for our season, but it's nothing more than bad luck. Hopefully Sia can recover fully for the next two years of his contract and prove his worth.
Surely only once we assess the full term of his contract can we judge whether he's been a waste of money or not?
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