Let's be clear though, we were put in this league with -12 points, no players, no kit, no staff, no training ground and with a huge financial penalty; at a time when signing players would be almost impossible anyway, three weeks before the season started by the RFL. Against the will of pretty much all bulls fans who wanted to start in the lower league anyway.



If these idiots running the RFL want to change the rules to preserve their position (like they have done exempting the 1st place winner from the promotion playoffs in Champ 1, to absolutely ensure that Toronto deffo go up) or the financial position of the game (or the Championship) they can do. It's their competition after all. IMO It's all looking a little shady and seedy though.



But in the case of Bradford this season, this [uWAS [/uall machinations of the RFL; from choosing the owners, the punishment, setting us up to fail from the get-go, pretty much everything. If they're going to keep us in this league, rightly or wrongly, I daresay they couldn't give two hoots what the fans think anyway.

How can it be 40k a year to other teams. Let's say for arguments sake Bulls take 1000 fans, which I would say some games its definitely less than that, at say £18 or less a time, falls a long way short of 40k



I don't think we are as valuable as what we think, certainly be missed, but not as much as we think



Anyway we won't be getting relegated, Mr Wood will make sure of that

Well, some late changes to the structure started today. An rfl tweet about there being no promotion playoff final from c1 this year like last year, instead the team finishing 1st goes up automatically without the risk of losing the one off game..... That's handy for Toronto.

Is there another sport on the planet that changes the competition rules part way through a season?

was always gonna be like that 2nd to 5th play off for the other promotion place its no secret or conspiracy by rfl

To be fair mate think me and you Have had same views throughout

I've not seen the tweet in question, but the structure at the start of the season for C1 was announced as...



Top 8 / Bottom 8 split part way through season.



Bottom 8 play another 7 games each, after which the "top" 4 of those have a "Shield" competition of Semi Finals and Final.



Top 8 play another 7 games each, after which the 1st place team gets promoted. 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th have a playoff (Semi Finals & Final), the winner of which also gains promotion.



Has that changed?

Wakey start playing above the rubbish they are and now you start piping up. If they were as rubbish as normal you wouldn't be on here so head back in your hole as it won't be long before wakey are clinging on by edge of teeth again. Some of your fans are carrying on like you are champions never be there hope it comes crashing down

Bar Sheffield, all the bottom eight have a similar record. It's not inconceivable (especially with reinforcements) that the Bulls could beat them all, allied with a win or two in the remaining regular league games, and the entirely possible scenario of one of the teams above the bottom two going into free fall, they could stay up easily.



Not saying that will happen, but staying up would not be a sporting miracle. Lose against Swinton and I'd say would be miracle territory.

My god SOME bulls fans think they have a Devine right of top flight rugby.

If you stay up fine but if you go down and then the rfl save you that is wrong.

Look at football with rangers,they broke the rules and paid the price,just because they have a lot of fans they didn't get saved.

If hull kr go up maybe Leigh or Widnes may come down and both them bring very good followings so the championship would survive.

This whole "the game needs us" thing from some Bulls fans is starting to get a few fans backs up.

Yes you have a good fan base but it don't mean the rules should get changed

How many times does this thread say bulls fans wanted to stat in L1? I know it is difficult, I have been to Fev once, but try and keep up and get your facts right

No thsts how ut still is