I'd be happy to analyse the issue you two have between you. Again the definition of expansion that Mr. Perez agreed with along with Officials here was an expanded pool of professional players and an expanded pool of TV money.



On the former nearly all ENGLISH SL clubs encourage and help run junior development through their foundations and academies. Salford don't run an academy though. On the latter all the ENGLISH SL clubs attract subscribers to SKY which then funds the TV deal payback......the idea our friend proposes that [i[u"Some UK SL clubs fail to do so after how many decades?"[/u[/i isn't really true..................



What is true is Les Catalans stopped their academy and are now nearly an all Anglo-Aussie team and Toulouse want to follow that....No sign of Academy level French player development nor any sign of French TV deals. Do you Snowie think stating these facts makes me a Francophobe?

Salford, Widnes, Fev.

Quote The Silent H="The Silent H"Salford, Widnes, Fev.'" thought so you couldn't wait to jump on the back of Widnes, for years they have produced talent but you kindly forget that, same with salford and featherstone so let me you be reminded again Toronto has never ever produce any player fact, they never had an academy system fact and never intended to have one either fact now please stop the crying they are gone end off FACT at least Featherstone Rovers are bring it back at the lower level https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/ne ... soon-t1raw

Quote The Silent H="The Silent H"Salford, Widnes, Fev.'" thought so you couldn't wait to jump on the back of Widnes, for years they have produced talent but you kindly forget that, same with salford and featherstone so let me you be reminded again Toronto has never ever produce any player fact, they never had an academy system fact and never intended to have one either fact now please stop the crying they are gone end off FACT at least Featherstone Rovers are bring it back at the lower level https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/ne ... soon-t1raw

But that is not entirely true is it?



It's Something that you state quite often because it supports your narrative but in reality it doesn't stack up. The idea that clubs like Salford Widnes Wakefield who all draw less than 5k have the supporter base to add a significant subscription numbers is fanciful. There is no evidence to prove otherwise.

Quote snowie="snowie"thought so you couldn't wait to jump on the back of Widnes, for years they have produced talent but you kindly forget that, same with salford and featherstone so let me you be reminded again Toronto has never ever produce any player fact, they never had an academy system fact and never intended to have one either fact now please stop the crying they are gone end off FACT at least Featherstone Rovers are bring it back at the lower level https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/ne ... soon-t1raw'" Toronto have got nothing to do with the failings of the three mentioned clubs.

Quote snowie="snowie"thought so you couldn't wait to jump on the back of Widnes, for years they have produced talent but you kindly forget that, same with salford and featherstone so let me you be reminded again Toronto has never ever produce any player fact, they never had an academy system fact and never intended to have one either fact now please stop the crying they are gone end off FACT at least Featherstone Rovers are bring it back at the lower level https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/ne ... soon-t1raw'" Toronto have got nothing to do with the failings of the three mentioned clubs.

Quote snowie="snowie" Toronto has never ever produced any player fact, they never had an academy system fact and never intended to have one either fact now please stop the crying they are gone end off FACT at least Featherstone Rovers are bring it back at the lower level https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/ne ... soon-t1raw'" Good post, other "facts" point to Catalans and Toulouse not having Academies either let alone TV deals Sadly they offer no more that Toronto did.......... And as such are bigger failures than Salford, Wakefield and Huddersfield will ever be.

Quote snowie="snowie" Toronto has never ever produced any player fact, they never had an academy system fact and never intended to have one either fact now please stop the crying they are gone end off FACT at least Featherstone Rovers are bring it back at the lower level https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/ne ... soon-t1raw'" Good post, other "facts" point to Catalans and Toulouse not having Academies either let alone TV deals Sadly they offer no more that Toronto did.......... And as such are bigger failures than Salford, Wakefield and Huddersfield will ever be.

when are you going to stop this constant raging about failings making you look like petulant child, none of the clubs have walked away from the game Widnes have chosen to do the same as Featherstone as their have other super league on their boundies two of the mentioned clubs are in the championship but you're chasting them for not having academies

Salford have budgeted and chosen do the same, ever thought that they might just want to keep afloat rather than not paying their bills



as for Toronto they did fail massively and had an oppertunity to correct it but walk away, the last time Iooked Salford, Widnes and Featherstone are all operational and looking forward to 2021

I can't agree with on this on as at least they are linked to St Estève XIII and Toulouse are linked to Toulouse Broncos XIII

Oh dear! Another poster giving Donnyman the facts.



Still,the fact he seems to have made,that by promoting Leigh Centurions to Super League will lead to a huge surge in Sky take-up,when it wouldn't work while they were in The Championship, is a real eye -opener.



Sky will certainly pay out more on the next broadcast deal,now.



Oh,wait...

come on you

Toronto blamed Covid for their dimise surely the reduced broadcast deal can also be blamed on covid or are you another one with blinkers

I love it how numpty's have some kind of inkling as to what and why would be the reasons for Super League receiving more funds for the next TV deal. Sky have NO competition whatsoever, even 'cheap & cheerful' Premier Sports are no longer involved.

Come on Snowy mate, Leeds were "linked" to Hunslet etc some years back but that did not provide the professional development Leeds operate now.



Superleague clubs run foundations to maximise kids exposure to RL and the best go through the academies they run. How can you excuse Catalans from having an academy when they DID run an academy in the past and it was a strong one. They stopped bothering and that was a disgrace.



They had the whole of France to recruit young players from.........



Wakefield would not get into Superleague by stating when asked about an academy they said they were[i "linked to Doncaster"? [/i