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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"
ANybody would think you were making up things to fit your argument.
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| Quote salford1970="salford1970"Oh cruel irony'"
What do you think I have made up? I can provide evidence for anything I have asserted as fact. |
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"The coaches job isn’t just picking the side any more though.
It is the weekly meetings with performance analysts, it is not only the organising the get togethers but deciding who to invite and what you are going to do there. It is deciding the game plan and working with the players to implement it.
This is something which happens every day, not every 9 months.
There isn’t one major sport which has a part-time national coach for a reason.'"
I understand your point, but I disagree. You're describing a club coach role, in which the coach has to have an input every single week. The place where your analogy with other major sports breask down is that RL has a much smaller and less significant set of international demands than other major sports. In terms of number of games played, and resources abailable, we don't even come close to Soccer, RU or Cricket. Indeed, the latter two veery clearly have the international game in the driving seat, and the club game second. RL is very much the opposite.
We need to be honest with ourselves aout how much time a national coach would actually have to spend (or be allowed to spend) with his national players. The answer is not much. |
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"[uQuite seriously, who gives a rats what he did at Bradford?[/u It has absolutely zero relevance to his performance as England coach.
The results against Australia and NZ were 20-28 and 18-20. England could and perhaps should have won both. The end was the same, but I assume you have seen GB/England absolutely smashed by both those teams? Quite recently in fact. I've seen us get hammered in Brisbane - absolutely humiliated. With players like Peacock, Morley, Harris, Long et al in the side. This England team is light years better then the last one to come down under.
But any improvement is somehow all down to the players and nothing to do with the coach. Really? He had 'four years' to prepare? Again, really? With his full squad available on a regular basis? Even half his squad? Even half his squad being able to play regular competitive matches? Or was it more like a few catch-up sessions with players when he could get them?
As for Chase, until literally a few weeks before the WC, there seemed very little chance that Widdopp would have been fit. So as a good coach did, he would have planned with Chase and Sinfield. If you take Widdopp out of the equation, all the other names bandied about for 7 are frankly laughably poor.
You can argue - understandably - that he could have dropped Chase a week earlier (I would have agreed with that), but to suggest he should have started with Widdopp against Australia for instance is barmy.
Which brings us to the other load of tosh. Brough is responsible for not even being considered for England. McNamara didn't force him out. He was told he wasn't an automatic selection. How bizarre for a coach to do that with a player who hasn't achieved anything much at all in a ten-year career.
It was Brough who took his bat home and decided he was Scottish rather than try to force his way into the squad and then the team by delivering performances that would demand his selection. So if you want to bag anyone or Brough's absence, bag Brough, pseudo-scot-dummy-spitter extraordinaire.
I'm 100% certain McNamara has made mistakes. But blaming him for the results without looking at the quality of the performances is not fair, suggesting that a narrow-heartbreaking defeat is the same as an embarrasing hiding is ridiculous, and suggesting that Brough wasn't solely responsible for his non-selection is laughable.'"
Are you kidding? On that basis then, anyone can be given the role as their past experiences/results mean nothing. |
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It is time to look ahead with a new coach and a new England team captain.
Last Saturday's game was England's best performance for decades. A real one off but we, again, lost.
McNamara has to take responsibility for a very large part of that. He has had four years yet a times in this World Cup England were poor. The Italy game was a very poor result. His squad selection was poor, team selection poor, reults poor, performances in the WC and Exiles game were poor. We have to look for someone better to get better performances and results.
Now the WC is over there are no more Test Matches until next Autumn. We don't need a full time England coach.
Make the job part time and then approach the trophy winning club coaches about taking the England job part time.
Also asking Wayne Bennett to take up a part time consultancy role would help the new man, just as he did with Kearney in the 2008 World Cup.
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| Quote salford1970="salford1970"
She offered him a chance after the semi to redeem himself and he messed it up big time. He was measured and pleasant in his response to her first few questions but the moment she offered him a chance to show compassion he spat it in her face.
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I think you'll find it was Damien Johnson that was interviewing McNamara after the semi-final. The BBC haven't let Tanya Arnold near him since the Ireland game. |
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All mcNamara said was,'its not been a difficult at all ,its been a great campaign & we've done things the right way.
HTF some of you can find reasons to throw hissy fits after hearing that statement i'll never know.
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| Quote Albion="Albion"Reports in League Express that he could become the backs coach at Bath RU'"
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I think tactically Macnamara got it wrong with insufficient support on the bench which showed towards the end of the game.
Think Mossop should have been on the bench and used especially for those last 15 mins when NZ had a roll on. It was a tired head high tackle by George Burgess.
The discipline issue also seemed to be a concern. Hock kicked out of squad and Graham, arguably the Worlds best prop not playing against Australia.... Had he played and we'd won wouldn't we have faced Fiji in the semi final? Our pack against Aus were outmuscled and Tom Burgess out of his depth... Graham and SB up front it could have been different.
The 'chase' issue poorly handled where Widdop was given little game time before the semi final and when give a chance showed a more direct approach required and a lot better England performance ensued.
Despite all that they were brilliant and deserved to win!
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Imagine how good they could have been with a good coach, quality squad management and team selection.
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| Quote asmadasa="asmadasa"I think tactically Macnamara got it wrong with insufficient support on the bench which showed towards the end of the game.
Think Mossop should have been on the bench and used especially for those last 15 mins when NZ had a roll on. It was a tired head high tackle by George Burgess.
The discipline issue also seemed to be a concern. Hock kicked out of squad and Graham, arguably the Worlds best prop not playing against Australia.... Had he played and we'd won wouldn't we have faced Fiji in the semi final? Our pack against Aus were outmuscled and Tom Burgess out of his depth... Graham and SB up front it could have been different.
The 'chase' issue poorly handled where Widdop was given little game time before the semi final and when give a chance showed a more direct approach required and a lot better England performance ensued.
Despite all that they were brilliant and deserved to win!'"
Hold on! He got criticism from some quarters for not sending Graham home! Even Hock was crying about being treated differently. He took the decision to drop Graham for the Australia game but now you're saying if he'd played we might have won and played Fiji instead. Yeah, I could see everyone backing that decision. You may be right and we may have beaten Australia in the opener but there's only one person to blame for James Graham not playing and that's James Graham. He put McNamara in a position where he had no alternative. Whether he stays or goes he's done a decent enough job this time despite being let down by some big daft lads who couldn't keep off the booze for a month! |
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All the mcnamara nay sayers and people criticising his management with f*ck all knowledge of what happened can suck it
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... efeat.html
[i Steve McNamara spoke to us all really well but it was only what I expected because he has done a wonderful job. He has had to deal with issues over the last few weeks that are unacceptable at elite level sport and he has taken a lot of flak on his shoulders to protect certain people.
He has dealt with things strongly and that has laid a great platform for years to come, because if he hadn’t been as strong it would have sent out the wrong message, not only to our squad, but the England Knights and the Under-18s. We are striving to be No 1 in the world and if we are going to bridge that gap we have to make sure that the off-field stuff is done just as well as the on-field stuff.
I am sure Steve has got a number of career options now but I hope he stays on as England coach. A lot of people have opinions from outside and question certain things and I get all that, especially some of the selection stuff, but when you are inside and know what is happening you realise what a great job he has done. Everybody inside has 100 per cent respect for him. [/i |
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All the mcnamara nay sayers and people criticising his management with f*ck all knowledge of what happened can suck it
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... efeat.html
[i Steve McNamara spoke to us all really well but it was only what I expected because he has done a wonderful job. He has had to deal with issues over the last few weeks that are unacceptable at elite level sport and he has taken a lot of flak on his shoulders to protect certain people.
He has dealt with things strongly and that has laid a great platform for years to come, because if he hadn’t been as strong it would have sent out the wrong message, not only to our squad, but the England Knights and the Under-18s. We are striving to be No 1 in the world and if we are going to bridge that gap we have to make sure that the off-field stuff is done just as well as the on-field stuff.
I am sure Steve has got a number of career options now but I hope he stays on as England coach. A lot of people have opinions from outside and question certain things and I get all that, especially some of the selection stuff, but when you are inside and know what is happening you realise what a great job he has done. Everybody inside has 100 per cent respect for him. [/i | |
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