No relegation?



Franchises up for renewal.

Apart from when they got beat 60 nil every week. Crusaders will not finish bottom of Super League next year, if I could find odds I would put money on it.

Fantastic.



Crusaders don't need a stadium to play at. They don't need more than 12 players.



64 Welsh schools now play rugby league and that's all that matters. Hurrah!

The one thing I have learned about this thread is there are some people U' North who don't want the Crusaders to be successful



Y'know what, you aren't much different to some rugby unions fans in South Wales, who also wish the Crusaders would fail.

You have!!!

Didn't you vow never to post on RLFANS again? Too bad you didn't stick to it, since you post so much rubbish and your opinions are respected by nobody.

I really don't think that's the case. There are those who predicted that Crusaders would fail, and those that disagree with the RFLs expansion policy (or at least the means by which the RFL is pursuing expansion) but on the whole I think RL fans do not wish to see RL clubs fail. That is not in the interests of the sport we love.

So, Crusaders have been a roaring success, is that your point?

Where have I said that? They're not even into their second proper year FFS. It's pathetic that people feel the need to label expansion clubs as 'a success' or not and write them off. Would you look at Salford, Warrington etc in the same way? The insular attitude of a lot of RL people is absolutely ridiculous and it's no surprise that rugby union has gained so much more penetration into the global market with a far inferior product. Thankfully, with forward-thinking administrators now in charge these fans have no influence whatsoever over what happens.

But if the backer withdraws, what then?



I don't want Crusaders to fail, I think expansion is good, into proven areas (Catalans), I just think some decisions are made for the wrong reasons. To sanction moving the club 31 miles from Widnes is a real kick in the preverbials to Widnes fans.



With the immigration breaches etc. you can understand the opinion that Crusaders was flawed, it was too soon for the club, in some people's opinions.

How can expansion involve placing clubs in proven areas? That doesn't make any sense. Crusaders are not moving to Wrexham, they are playing two games there because Rodney Parade is unavailable. I don't really know why they moved from Bridgend, but if a new stadium is built there then they will have a permanent home. Crusaders will be fine, they will be competitive on the field next season and hopefully will be able to develop a fan base in Newport. I've not seen any evidence that Samuel is planning to pull out, and I'm sure that the club would have not moved to Newport against his wishes. To be honest the Guardian article looks like a rehash of some of the paranoid postings on the official Crusaders message board rather than anything of substance.

We shall see I guess, although I trust a Guardian journalist over a fan.