Double movement all day long,have the rules changed???

Didn't Ryan Hall get called for double movement yesterday?



Carvell's was deffo double movement and the benefit of the doubt (esp when Cudjoe's try was later ruled out with more doubt) was a terrible call

Not had a good day the VR, should stick to derbies, brilliant at those.

Can you explain why you think that it was a 50/50 decision?



Carvell's ball carrying arm is on the floor, the Huddersfield player touches him (tackle complete) and then Carvell flips over and puts the ball down. Baffling decision.



Who was the video ref, out of interest?

It was as clear cut a double movement as its possible to get



Cudjoes had more "benefit of doubt" to it than Carvells and wasnt given

Couldnt see the ball, no reason to not give it. BoD to Cudjoe



What IS the Video Ref for again?

Benefit of Doubt only comes into play when there is no clear reason to disallow a try. That does not include Ian Smith not being able to make up his mind on whether Carvell's "try" was the subject of a double movement or not. It certainly does come in to play in the Cudjoe instance because no one, not one person in the ground, watching on the TV or whatever could see a clear reason to disallow.



It is the failure to follow simple rules such as these that brings entirely justifiable but easily avoidable criticism on referees.

Silverwood only asked the video ref to check the grounding. The ball is down and then rolls over the defenders arm.

50/50 wouldn't have argued either way.



if you watch it full speed it is momentum that gets him over.



no hudds players were really complaining about it but if it was given no try i wouldn't of minded.

Think you need to look up the definition of momentum. I'm kinda certain it doesn't mean 'stop, roll over and then reach out'.

Didnt stop.

but he doesnt stop anyway it got given the result wasn't affected by it and like i say wouldn't have complained if it hadn't been given and the benefit of the doubt would have been against the grounding not the double movement so mr smith must of thought it was momentum.

I mentioned this on the HKR board the other week.



On the championship coverage the video refs have a live microphone so everyone at home can hear them go through their reasoning and thinking when they are making their decision.

It works rather well and instead of you thinking 'how has he come by that decision' you can see his thinking even if you don't agree with it.

It makes for a lot less heads scratching.