I've just gone through the pages and have seen your post, like mine previously, I've just done the same thing this evening. The ball squeues off to the right and misses the post doesn't it?



I thought I was going mad as I hadn't seen it anywhere online or in the news.



He missed!

I've got to say it does appear that way from the video I've seen.

Perhaps we should introduce goal post and crossbar technology.

There was a a fair bit of talk about it starting on page 9 of this thread, when a video came out on Facebook of the DG. Like others have said, there were about 4 or 5 England players looking directly at the ball going over and not one reacted to it and all the NZ'ers did. There was also people that were behind the sticks at the game that say it went over. Does look dodgy on the video but that could be just perspective and it's hard to tell with the ball and posts being the same colour.

It's the problem with camera angles for drop goals, if the ball arcs across the posts and you don't get a definitive camera angle there will always be speculation. I think it is very telling that none of the players contested the decision, and that nobody who was behind the sticks appears to be contesting it. The argument seems to come from some debatable camera angles discovered after the game itself.

Get two refs into international football,one watching the offside,the other watching the interference at the play the ball,how obvious is this.

It's just gonna be a ''trick of the camera''. If it genuinely didn't go over there would have been reaction from players and fans, fans would have started booing and you would have seen arm waving, players would have been running to the official and appealing. As it is there was just grim resignation from players and fans closest which suggest no matter what the camera appears to depict, those closest in the flesh saw it go over.

BBC have just shown it again going over no problem.

Just because he said it did doesn't make it true, that little montage just shows even more that it didn't go through. As fir the players looking up, they all looked up too late.to notice.one hazy bit of footage that does not change the shape of the post as the ball travels past is all they could come up withto 'prove' it went over...laughable.

Here yougo, definitive proof the ball did NOT go through the posts, the ball is clearly obscured by the post as it passes outside. IF it had gone between the posts it would have broken the plane and the whole of the ball would be in view.

Unless of course the ball in that rather blurry shot is sideways on....

17-16 stop looking for excuses for poor game management.

Either way, you'd have to see the next frame. All that shot proves is that at that point, the ball hadn't reached the goal yet.