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| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"It does annoy me when they mention half backs defence. As long as its reasonable and not a turnstile, who cares as long as their good attackers. A half backs job is to create for his team. How good at defending are Thurston, Marshall, Cronk Etc., Too often we go with a rigid team instead of a more creative/flair team. Choose the most creative half backs and you've got a chance. End of day none of our half backs are going to stop a full flight Greg Inglis on their own.'"
Spot on. I can't stand it when people focus on a half-back's defence. The whole idea of a half-back is putting players into gaps, making breaks, creating attacking plays. I've no problem with Sinfield at 13 but he should be nowhere near the England 6 shirt.
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| Don't we have this discussion about Brough around this time every year until he and his team fall out of form? If he can maintain his start to the season and perform in the big games (last week wasn't one) then I'm sure he will come into consideration.
I heard he was considering Scotland again now?
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| Quote SFW="SFW"Don't we have this discussion about Brough around this time every year until he and his team fall out of form? If he can maintain his start to the season and perform in the big games (last week wasn't one) then I'm sure he will come into consideration.
I heard he was considering Scotland again now?'"
Not seen any sustained form from Chase since 2011 while Sinfield ( a player I admire in the domestic game) has been frequently ineffectual vesus Oz opposition. If we need a kicking game to have any hope of beating the Aussies and kiwis then brough and Briers (if fit) are the best in our game.
Sadly we have a third rate coporate nodding dog as our England coach. He was an abject failure at the Bulls. If he had not got the England job there is no way he would have got another SL head coaches job. Infact there are few SL clubs who would emply him as an assistant coach.
Our best players have high quality coaching at club level and then have to put up with Steve Mac's drivel at national level. On this topic the likes of Andy Wilson are silent.
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| Quote Cripesginger="Cripesginger"Not seen any sustained form from Chase since 2011 while Sinfield ( a player I admire in the domestic game) has been frequently ineffectual vesus Oz opposition. If we need a kicking game to have any hope of beating the Aussies and kiwis then brough and Briers (if fit) are the best in our game.'"
Whether you are right or wrong my point was that I can understand why Brough hasn't been picked up to now. If he continually falls apart at the business end of the SL season then what makes you think he will suddenly perform against the best international teams in the world?
I appreciate that we aren't spoilt for choice, believe me. 
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| Quote SFW="SFW"Whether you are right or wrong my point was that I can understand why Brough hasn't been picked up to now. If he continually falls apart at the business end of the SL season then what makes you think he will suddenly perform against the best international teams in the world?
I appreciate that we aren't spoilt for choice, believe me.
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But the thing is he hasn't fallen apart for the last 3 years, he's been consistently excellent for Huddersfield all season, apart from the end of 2011 when he was out injured! The issue seems to be that a lot of people either judge him based on years ago or on the abject failures of the rest of the Hudds side in the second half of the year in 2011 and 2012.
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| Quote SFW="SFW"Whether you are right or wrong my point was that I can understand why Brough hasn't been picked up to now. If he continually falls apart at the business end of the SL season then what makes you think he will suddenly perform against the best international teams in the world?
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Not seen any evidence of Brough continually falling apart nor of chase putting together many quality performances in during the last 15 months. Either way Steve mac is hopeless.
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| anyone who suggests broughy's defence is poor clearly haven't seen brough defend.out of all the half backs i've seen over numerous years,brough is up there when it comes to defending.
and shouldn't a half back be judged on what he does in attack as thats what they are usually renowned for? his attack isn't bad either.
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| Brough is Scotish not English
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"Brough is Scotish not English'"
You keep stating this but you have not posted one post stating that McIlorum is Irish and should not be playing for England either. Until you do your comment is completely worthless
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"You keep stating this but you have not posted one post stating that McIlorum is Irish and should not be playing for England either. Until you do your comment is completely worthless'"
Please find ONE post where I have stated that anywhere
Until you can your comment makes you look laughable (not that difficult)
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"d040.gif
Please find ONE post where I have stated that anywhere
Until you can your comment makes you look laughable (not that difficult)'"
How can he find a post that he's saying doesn't exist? That's the point.
He's saying you're NOT saying this. You're dismissing Brough for turning out for Scotland, but you've never dismissed McIllorum for turning out for Ireland. Or Carvell for turning out for Wales.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"How can he find a post that he's saying doesn't exist? That's the point.
He's saying you're NOT saying this. You're dismissing Brough for turning out for Scotland, but you've never dismissed McIllorum for turning out for Ireland. Or Carvell for turning out for Wales.'"
Really?
The "You" keep stating this appears aimed direct at me
Yes, the other two shouldn't be playing for England
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