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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE" We need Toulouse in Super League ASAP.'"
You constantly roll out this sound bite but back it up with very little. Please, in your own unique style, explain why a second side from the south of France, that delivers no VFM for our mainline sponsor, or our #1 income source, our UK broadaster is NEEDED in the ESL?
Toulouse have a hardcore of 1,250 supporters who are dwarfed in numbers by the support of arguably one of the top RU sides in Europe in their professional era. They would deliver nothing other than a derby game for Catalan, although how a 200km journey is hardly a "derby". Soccer is #1 in France, but Union is a giant in the south of France and catalonia........so what else will Toulouse bring to the SL table other than a side of below standard frenchmen bolstered by pensionable Aussies.
I get it that you're a fan, but you need to explain your use of the word NEED........because you desiring it does't make it a pre-requisite requirement to have a second French side in SL......especially one that loses to 2 other championship sides in the qualifiers.
I'd argue that SL needs stronger heartland sides before it needs any more expansion. 7,000 freebies in Toronto to a beet festival isn't going to interest anyone in terms of sponsorship and neither will 4,000 in Toulouse when the union lot are getting 17,000 and winning the European Cup....
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Well replace my “maybe” with your “shouldn’t”'"
You’re speculating, Toulouse shouldn’t have been thinking about drop goals and to prove my point with the bomb kick in the 79th minute, evidently weren’t!
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| Quote WakeyTrin1873="WakeyTrin1873"You’re speculating, Toulouse shouldn’t have been thinking about drop goals and to prove my point with the bomb kick in the 79th minute, evidently weren’t!'"
You’re speculating as well on the assumption that the following 60 mins following the MCB ‘try’ play out the exact same.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I say "need" because having both Catalans and Toulouse playing in Super League will do wonders for the game's popularity in the southwest of France. It will increase French youth participation and fan support, not to mention possible corporate support, thereby making the French playing pool bigger and ultimately the French national team stronger. That is not only good for the game in France, it is good for the game in the UK, because England will benefit from having a more competitive French national team to p;lay against each year.
Any such heightened growth in interest, participation and funding for French rugby league will create a new momentum for the game in France. It may even prompt some wealthy French men to invest in another French professional team, either from Avignon or Paris, or perhaps from both, to make a bid for Super League. That will be all good for rugby league.'"
You're possibly right to a degree that it will increase interest in the game in the region, but stretching that helping to create to an improved French RL national team doesn't quite compute. To build a stronger national team, there needs to be a far bigger and stronger amateur and semi-pro setup supporting it all. One additional team in SL is a relative drop in the ocean if the underlying infrastructure isn't already there.
This is also why TWP are (imo) going to struggle in the medium term. Their model is based on wealthy benefactors with plenty of free tickets, with a lot of supporters seeming to spend more time in the beer tent than watching the game.
Btw, I might not agree with you, but that was a reasonably well thought out response. Please keep it in that vein and we can have some sensible debate here!
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| Saw Toulouse lose to Toronto at Magic, no video ref there so Toronto got tries they should not have got.
If there is no video ref available in Toronto then they should not be allowed to host a million pound game, and surely they should not be allowed in Super league as the facilities are not up to standard.
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| Quote Hopie="Hopie"Saw Toulouse lose to Toronto at Magic, no video ref there so Toronto got tries they should not have got.
If there is no video ref available in Toronto then they should not be allowed to host a million pound game, and surely they should not be allowed in Super league as the facilities are not up to standard.'"
A game with a supposed £1,000,000 on the line needs every technology available in place......or the sport leaves itself open to further ridicule.....more so than it is now with the lead RL story on the BBC website being about a player biting another..
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"You’re speculating as well on the assumption that the following 60 mins following the MCB ‘try’ play out the exact same.'"
Where did I say that? I only pointed out that Toronto should have been 4 points behind where ended up.
The winner of the game means absolutely nothing to me, I just hate to see such a blatant call judged incorrectly.
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| Quote WakeyTrin1873="WakeyTrin1873"Where did I say that? I only pointed out that Toronto should have been 4 points behind where ended up. '"
You said Toulouse shouldn’t have been thinking of Drop Goals so you assumed the next 60 mins played out the same. If MCB is pinged for a knock on then Toulouse could’ve knocked on a tackle or two later coming away from their line and concede a try from the field position gifted to Toronto.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter" [size=200=#FF0000If [/sizeMCB is pinged for a knock on then Toulouse could’ve knocked on a tackle or two later coming away from their line and concede a try from the field position gifted to Toronto.'"

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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God" '"
Yes I know it’s an IF but it’s no different from the IF that try was disallowed the game would’ve turned out to be a Toulouse win.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"You said Toulouse shouldn’t have been thinking of Drop Goals so you assumed the next 60 mins played out the same. If MCB is pinged for a knock on then Toulouse could’ve knocked on a tackle or two later coming away from their line and concede a try from the field position gifted to Toronto.'"
No, no I didn’t assume anything. Read it back and give your head a shake...
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| Quote HXSparky="HXSparky"This is also why TWP are (imo) going to struggle in the medium term. Their model is based on wealthy benefactors with plenty of free tickets, with a lot of supporters seeming to spend more time in the beer tent than watching the game.'"
A person in the beer tent has paid their way in. The team doesn't get additional revenue based on the % of minutes their eyeballs are directed at the field of play. On the other hand, a person sitting at home watching the game on telly isn't putting money into their club, even if they have perfect recall of every play for the past 120 years.
The beer garden is part of what brings new fans in ... appreciation of the sport comes later. Wolfpack understand that they are first and foremost in the entertainment business.
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