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| Rl is screwed the longer we let the tail wag the Dog.
Its probably one of the only good examples of trickle down economy, if the super league grows the lower level clubs will get dragged up a level.
unfortunately the top of the game us being dragged down by the drowning man of championship/league ine clubs.
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| Quote Seth="Seth"It’s the one place the peasants wearing their best Top Man suit, matching shades and vomit stain are allowed to join in with the toffs.'"
Oh that's alright then. Never mind the horses or dogs who may not come out it alive, as long as the poor are made to feel relevant.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"Rl is screwed the longer we let the tail wag the Dog.
Its probably one of the only good examples of trickle down economy, if the super league grows the lower level clubs will get dragged up a level.
unfortunately the top of the game us being dragged down by the drowning man of championship/league ine clubs.'"
Always remember if Championship/League 1 Clubs die,you die with them.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Oh that's alright then. Never mind the horses or dogs who may not come out it alive, as long as the poor are made to feel relevant.'"
Errm i wont say 'whoosh' but im not sure how the tone of my message was lost to infer being in anything other than agreement with you.
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| Quote atomic="atomic"Always remember if Championship/League 1 Clubs die,you die with them.'"
Or they adapt.
At the moment we have too many clubs with too many different ambitions. Someone like Michael Carter will never have the level of vision or ambition of someone like Ian Lenaghan, but yet the sport is structured in a way where it progresses at the pace of the slowest man.
Carter himself is on record as saying that he wants to RL to be "the number one sport, after football, in the North of England". Well sorry Michael, but not all of us are suspicious or fearful of anything beyond Derbyshire. Some of us realise that there's a big wide world out there, and we want to be more exciting than that.
As a sport we can do one of two things. We can be bold, ambitious in raising standards, growing and striving to be better, or we can do what Michael Carter wants which is insular, unambitious, unadventurous and will be what ultimately kills the game. For too long, the sport in this country has worried about people who think the latter and it hasn't worked. It's time to do the former and encourage everyone else to keep up.
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| As someone else touched on, the country is skint.The reason for Saint's and Leeds success is their net is cast out the whole of Yorkshire/Lancs. Go back 30 years, that net would have only needed to be cast within a 3 mile radius.
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| Quote bramleyrhino="bramleyrhino"Or they adapt.
At the moment we have too many clubs with too many different ambitions. Someone like Michael Carter will never have the level of vision or ambition of someone like Ian Lenaghan, but yet the sport is structured in a way where it progresses at the pace of the slowest man.
Carter himself is on record as saying that he wants to RL to be "the number one sport, after football, in the North of England". Well sorry Michael, but not all of us are suspicious or fearful of anything beyond Derbyshire. Some of us realise that there's a big wide world out there, and we want to be more exciting than that.
As a sport we can do one of two things. We can be bold, ambitious in raising standards, growing and striving to be better, or we can do what Michael Carter wants which is insular, unambitious, unadventurous and will be what ultimately kills the game. For too long, the sport in this country has worried about people who think the latter and it hasn't worked. It's time to do the former and encourage everyone else to keep up.'"
He's having a crack at the fact we're not top dog in our own back yard, nevermind somebody else's.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"He's having a crack at the fact we're not top dog in our own back yard, nevermind somebody else's.'"
But with an attitude like the one that Carter holds, this sport isn't going to be 'top dog' anywhere, because what he is proposing is something that limits our audience to demographics that advertisers, sponsors and broadcasters care little for.
Carter is an accountant - a bean-counter by trade. His MO is reduce spends and to control costs, not to seek opportunities. Now people like him are needed in business and in sport, but so are the innovators, the visionaries and the risk takers. My belief is that we've spent far too long listening more to the former than we have the latter.
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| Quote atomic="atomic"Always remember if Championship/League 1 Clubs die,you die with them.'"
Ridiculous response an entire round of championship games in one venue around 30 miles away from most of the clubs competing attracted less over two days than castleford hull kr Alone attract to one league game never mind Leeds Wigan, but the whole game will die if these clubs aren't allowed to hang of the shirt tails of the big clubs. That's either the best bit is sarcasm I have ever heard or complete utter desperationalist bollox. This attitude is what's killing the game. 500-600 fans of smalltime clubs telling clubs with 16000 fans that the game will die without them. I really hope it's sarcasm.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"Ridiculous response an entire round of championship games in one venue around 30 miles away from most of the clubs competing attracted less over two days than castleford hull kr Alone attract to one league game never mind Leeds Wigan, but the whole game will die if these clubs aren't allowed to hang of the shirt tails of the big clubs. That's either the best bit is sarcasm I have ever heard or complete utter desperationalist bollox. This attitude is what's killing the game. 500-600 fans of smalltime clubs telling clubs with 16000 fans that the game will die without them. I really hope it's sarcasm.'"
Everything you say including summer bash is down to the structural disorganising created over the last 20+ years. SL is stale, no money in the game. Clubs surviving off the handouts of media which should be a bonus.
Even the SL is not a full league. All down to the lower tiers I guess.
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| Quote atomic="atomic"Always remember if Championship/League 1 Clubs die,you die with them.'"
Quote atomic="rollin thunder"Ridiculous response an entire round of championship games in one venue around 30 miles away from most of the clubs competing attracted less over two days than castleford hull kr Alone attract to one league game never mind Leeds Wigan, but the whole game will die if these clubs aren't allowed to hang of the shirt tails of the big clubs. That's either the best bit is sarcasm I have ever heard or complete utter desperationalist bollox. This attitude is what's killing the game. 500-600 fans of smalltime clubs telling clubs with 16000 fans that the game will die without them. I really hope it's sarcasm.'"
Disregarding attendances for a minute, if the only clubs playing RL in the UK were the current 12 SL clubs plus the amateur game (below Championship 1), then do you really think that the game would survive at a professional level? If all the Championship and Championship 1 clubs dissolved and were no more in 2019, then yes, it would be the death knell for the professional game.
Btw, there isn't a single Championship club within 30 miles of Blackpool. Leigh are closest at around 40 miles, with London around 250 miles away, Toulouse around 1000 miles away and Toronto having the Atlantic to cross to get there.
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| Quote HXSparky="HXSparky"Disregarding attendances for a minute, if the only clubs playing RL in the UK were the current 12 SL clubs plus the amateur game (below Championship 1), then do you really think that the game would survive at a professional level? If all the Championship and Championship 1 clubs dissolved and were no more in 2019, then yes, it would be the death knell for the professional game.
Btw, there isn't a single Championship club within 30 miles of Blackpool. Leigh are closest at around 40 miles, with London around 250 miles away, Toulouse around 1000 miles away and Toronto having the Atlantic to cross to get there.'"
NRL biggest Rl competition in the world only 16 full time pro clubs, to say say Rl in uk would die without lower league clubs is like saying NFL wpuld die without canadian football league or champions league would die without league 1 and 2
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