Nat , it will be interesting how they put a celebratatory positive spin when they announce who is coming down , today is the wedding with lots of slaps on backs , will next time be thw ' Wake ' , for Wakey ?



That will take some ' spin ' , how much will that parachute payment be I wonder ?

Why are people complaining now that promotion should be decided based upon on-field performance. The decision to make the decision based on wider factors (including on-field performance) was taken several years ago and any club which has spent the last 3 years investing solely in it's first team should only blame themselves.



Widnes have invested heavily in their youth systems and in their community programmes, in addition to having great facilities, good attendances and sound finances. They spent the last 3 years specifically addressing the areas of the bid that they failed on last time (i.e. financial stability and youth structure). As a result we now have a vibrant and strong Widnes club which is better for the whole game of rugby league. It was for this very reason that franchising was introduced and therefore it is clearly serving its purpose.



Clubs aspiring to super league have 2 choices - they can accept the franchising criteria and do their best to meet it as fully as possible, or they can continue to prioritise only certain sections of the criteria and then moan that these sections should be given more priority if rugby league is to be considered a "proper sport". I know which I'd prefer my club to do.



Also regarding the Northern Rail Cup - to those who say this is a mickey mouse competition that nobody cares about, you are clearly missing something. This competition forms a key part of the on-field criteria given that winners fulfill this criteria in full and therefore only stupid or ignorant people would consider it to be "mickey mouse" for any aspiring club.

You are Ian Millward and I claim my £5.

Nice ignorance there my friend. The song was made famous by Labi Siffre and inspired by a TV documentary Siffre viewed in 1985 in which a white soldier was seen shooting at black children. Apalled, he penned the song as an anti-Apartheid anthem, advising Africans to stand tall in the face of adversity.

All this , and then still not go anywhere , is the simple reality of it

And I thought James Corden wrote it?





Are you suggesting Halifax been denied a franchise is the same as interracial murder?

No, but I think some of the lyrics are appropriate for the way I feel right now. Rob Brydons butchering of the song was almost as bad as murder though.

absolutely. and it was the clubs collectively who chose this route for the game...too many fans forget that. if you don't meet the criteria, or otehrs better meet the criteria, it is the fault of the club, not the RFL

So Halifax basically need to find someone willing to pump millions of pounds of their own money into the club if they want to get into Super League.

It's only a game mate, Huddersfield and Bradford are quite close if you want to watch live Super League.

This isn't about a five minute sound bite on Sky sports. This is about building the club to a super league standard with a sustainable future over the past three years. It is the reward for all the hard work put into the club to transform it from top to bottom.



Why is this so hard to understand?

The entire development of professional sport worldwide over the last 30 years or so has completely passed you by, hasn't it?