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| Quote christopher="christopher"There’s plenty of criticism of Sinfield on Southstander.com
Really, what has he done to you to make you so bitter?'"
I’m judging him solely on his performance as Director of Rugby and it’s been god awful. Honestly if someone came in with no previous Leeds playing connection and performed like he has over the last 9 months they’d be getting a ton of stick but his playing record is why he’s not.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter" idiots who didn’t realise or understand how tough it was to afford the stadium work and that it was a necessary sacrifice for the longer term.'"
Well...maybe you'll Get Bradford next year, so that'll be one full house 
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Hurrell and Merrin have been two of our best players, but we could have signed 4/5 players for the money those two were on and balanced the squad out better. No point having a 4 try centre if the rest of the team is gifting more points away than that. Plenty of other teams ahead of us in the table that haven’t signed marquee players and we’ve won a fair few trophies without them so let not pretend they’re a must need.
It’s basic Salary Cap management and Sinfield has messed it up big time. That’s the real reason Garbutt left, so we could afford Merrin, nothing to do with injuries or attitude, Merrin’s salary meant someone had to leave and we went and a sold a player who was the best in the position we were already short on and looking weakest in now.
And yes one of the main criticisms was that were weren’t spending money, but them criticisms came from idiots who didn’t realise or understand how tough it was to afford the stadium work and that it was a necessary sacrifice for the longer term.'"
You’ve got absolutely no clue why Garbutt left and if you think Leeds issues are as simple as Garbutt staying and Merrin not coming, then you are not thinking straight,(garbutt was a Leeds player last year, you know the year we only just avoided a MPG).
The Marquee signings are not the issue and they have been signed lomg term to aid the very good group of young players coming through (very much like 2002-2003), there have been 11 players released from last years playimg squad and likely to be a fair few released after this year, the club is in a massive transition and fans like you are looking far too short term. If we get relegated this year I’ll agree the new regime has failed.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"I’m judging him solely on his performance as Director of Rugby and it’s been god awful. Honestly if someone came in with no previous Leeds playing connection and performed like he has over the last 9 months they’d be getting a ton of stick but his playing record is why he’s not.'"
You’ve got absolutely no idea whether he is doing a good job in the role he was brought in to do, he is responsible for the whole Rugby operation, how is our Academy doing this year, what if that bears fruit for another 10 years.
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| For all the rhinos fans delving into their clubs failings, maybe you might consider that the Rovers side is a tad better than some pundits would have you believe ( Schofield for one) despite our small squad & current injuries?
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| Quote christopher="christopher"You’ve got absolutely no clue why Garbutt left and if you think Leeds issues are as simple as Garbutt staying and Merrin not coming, then you are not thinking straight,(garbutt was a Leeds player last year, you know the year we only just avoided a MPG).
The Marquee signings are not the issue and they have been signed lomg term to aid the very good group of young players coming through (very much like 2002-2003), there have been 11 players released from last years playimg squad and likely to be a fair few released after this year, the club is in a massive transition and fans like you are looking far too short term. If we get relegated this year I’ll agree the new regime has failed.'"
I’m not looking for a quick fix at all. If we finished 8th/9th with more losses than wins then fair enough but to be bottom with no effort defence is inexcusable.
Merrin and Hurrell were signed to sell season tickets for the new stands, if you can’t see that and go for the “helping youngsters” then you’re deluded. Garbutt was released to accommodate Merrin, that’s why Parcell and Cuthbertson were offered out too because of cap space (they didn’t have the injury excuse that was levelled against Garbutt).
Yes Garbutt was a Leeds player last year and we finished 9th, only just slipping into that place late on after being up around 4th/5th and that’s with plenty other prop injuries including his. Wonder if Sinfield will release Ablett and Ward this year after their injury hit years....I doubt it.
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"For all the rhinos fans delving into their clubs failings, maybe you might consider that the Rovers side is a tad better than some pundits would have you believe ( Schofield for one) despite our small squad & current injuries?'"
Oh don’t get me wrong you’re a decent side and can trouble any team on your day, but even you’d have to admit as well as some of your play was tonight, Leeds’ pitiful effort in defence played a key part.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Oh don’t get me wrong you’re a decent side and can trouble any team on your day, but even you’d have to admit as well as some of your play was tonight, Leeds’ pitiful effort in defence played a key part.'"
Agree but we have been known to be awful too, I do think Leeds problem started with a great youth side growing into the top side in the game & all getting old together, Rovers have done well out of the Leeds academy, McDermot did what Don Revie did across the city, not keeping his winning team evolving by replacing players early. Or that’s how as an outsider sees it.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"I’m not looking for a quick fix at all. If we finished 8th/9th with more losses than wins then fair enough but to be bottom with no effort defence is inexcusable.
Merrin and Hurrell were signed to sell season tickets for the new stands, if you can’t see that and go for the “helping youngsters” then you’re deluded. Garbutt was released to accommodate Merrin, that’s why Parcell and Cuthbertson were offered out too because of cap space (they didn’t have the injury excuse that was levelled against Garbutt).
Yes Garbutt was a Leeds player last year and we finished 9th, only just slipping into that place late on after being up around 4th/5th and that’s with plenty other prop injuries including his. Wonder if Sinfield will release Ablett and Ward this year after their injury hit years....I doubt it.'"
And we may finish 9th or higher this year, you seem to think I’m happy were at the bottom at the moment, I’m not but I’m disagreeing with you that it it is all Sinfields fault.
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"For all the rhinos fans delving into their clubs failings, maybe you might consider that the Rovers side is a tad better than some pundits would have you believe ( Schofield for one) despite our small squad & current injuries?'"
Nope.....you're a bottom 3 club this year who will be thankful that London got promoted and not Toronto. To date, you've beaten Leeds, London, Wakefield and FC.....with only Leeds and London being by more than 1 score. It could well be argued that your win at Wakefield was more to do with the weather than the game......but you won none the less.
HKR, like London and a couple of other sides perform better than expected now and again, but we are bottom half sides who are not challenging for honours, but fighting for survival.........and that is where our sport fails.
Give out 20 licences......central funding dependent on the prior years finishing position......wealthy backers can buy their team "up the table" if they want and strict cap with one marquee allowed.......current 12 + 8 others who are happy to commit to a minimum spend......so let all of Jean's fantasy sides in.....but the reality is that forking out £3 million or more to finish 12th will soon wear thin for the Argyles of this world....
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TBF though the Marquee ruling has been in place a few years, he never got given the chance to use it.
No coincidence that after signing the likes of Webb, Eastwood and Buderus in 2007-2009, the South Stand got condemned by health and safety in 2010 (since that year we’ve had to spend a 6 figure fee in maintenance to keep them open) and GH came out said we’d hopefully have both main stands rebuilt by the end of 2014 and any impressive NRL signings stopped. Because of usual struggles in this area of building work it’s only just now been completed. In those years NO big NRL signings, with ‘project’ signings being made, some working out some not. For a Garbutt there was an Achurch. Low and behold the stands are completed and we sign 2 marquee NRL players. McDermott never got that luxury of replacing key players with the quality that was needed, he was asked to do it on the cheap whilst the stadium issues rumbled on year upon year. As soon as the Stands were rebuilt he was dismissed, if the two main stands at Leeds were still waiting to being green lighted for being rebuilt then make no mistake McDermott would still be in charge and no marquee signings would be made and Furner and Sinfield wouldn’t have stepped in without the promise of money to spend.
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"Nope.....you're a bottom 3 club this year who will be thankful that London got promoted and not Toronto. To date, you've beaten Leeds, London, Wakefield and FC.....with only Leeds and London being by more than 1 score. It could well be argued that your win at Wakefield was more to do with the weather than the game......but you won none the less.
HKR, like London and a couple of other sides perform better than expected now and again, but we are bottom half sides who are not challenging for honours, but fighting for survival.........and that is where our sport fails.
Give out 20 licences......central funding dependent on the prior years finishing position......wealthy backers can buy their team "up the table" if they want and strict cap with one marquee allowed.......current 12 + 8 others who are happy to commit to a minimum spend......so let all of Jean's fantasy sides in.....but the reality is that forking out £3 million or more to finish 12th will soon wear thin for the Argyles of this world....'"
Totally discounting the fact that we've been badly plagued with injuries since round one (worse than anyone in my opinion) and been with in a shout of winning every game we've played bar the Huddersfield game.
Yep, my conclusion is that you know as much as most armchair pundits and Leeds head coach; naff all.
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