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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"The stadium meets the current criteria [inow[/i. This move seemingly means that the Bulls can relax knowing that it will always meet the criteria in future without them having to spend a penny on it. That's not a unique situation in itself, but the fact that it's the RFL who have enabled it is.'"
You've seen the full terms of the deal then, and they prohibit the RFL from charging rent, or requiring the Bulls to incur any costs for changes to the stadium?
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| Quote t-r-i-n-i-t-y="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Seems to make complete sense to me. The RFL own a large venue that, while not perfect, is up to the standards required, and a club has it's home secured. Why would they have splashed out on Belle Vue which is not up to it, hence the plans to move. Everyone wants to see a conspiracy where there isn't one. I didn't even know they owned other stadia until today.
I really can't get involved with all this 'Lewis and Wood out' nonsense. The reason Wakefield are in the hole they are is bad management for decades and some supporters who were willing to be complicit in it by toadying up to that management. Not the RFL's fault.'"
And the Bulls have spent years using their money to ' buy ' SL titles instead of sorting out somewhere to play that is up to the required standard, it puts them in the same ' club ' as Wakey,Salford,Widnes and a whole bunch of Championship Clubs, not one of the sports premier names
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| Quote jonny the leyther="jonny the leyther"If Bradford were paying the council rent before, and now they're paying the RFL, does this not mean the RFL are already making money out of it?'"
If the rent covered the costs, why would the council sell it?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"If the rent covered the costs, why would the council sell it?'"
Perhaps they wanted the cash now rather than income for the next X years?
There could be any number of reasons we could speculate about.
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| Quote Odem="Odem"This is the RFL showing ambition and people are assuming they have stepped in to 'save' Bradford.'"
So ambition is purchasing an old run down stadium that doesnt even have a full size pitch and will cost an a fortune to bring up to a standard required for premier games.
Why do you have this fantasy that the RFL are going to turn it into a world class stadium and where is all this money going to come from to achieve this?
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| Quote Richie="Richie"Were those stadia offered to the RFL on an attractive buy & lease back deal? '"
But that's not the point is it? According to the RFL's own statement, they have done this to save the stadium and save the Bulls from being homeless (all those predators lurking at the door). They haven't done this as an investment for the good of the sport. They have done it to help out the Bulls. Therefore, helping out Saints, Cas, Oldham would all be achieving the same objective: helping out a club.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"If the rent covered the costs, why would the council sell it?'"
Any number of reasons.
That question of the level of income compared to costs which the stadium generated would obviously be a part of the process by which the stadium was sold at market value.
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| Quote Richie="Richie"Perhaps they wanted the cash now rather than income for the next X years?
There could be any number of reasons we could speculate about.'"
Correct including the Bulls not being able to afford the rent the council expected to cover costs, it could be either way, we dont know
But considering land prices are at an all time low, now isn't the time to sell a property that is showing a profit rental wise with a guaranteed tenant
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"But that's not the point is it? According to the RFL's own statement, they have done this to save the stadium and save the Bulls from being homeless (all those predators lurking at the door). They haven't done this as an investment for the good of the sport. They have done it to help out the Bulls. Therefore, helping out Saints, Cas, Oldham would all be achieving the same objective: helping out a club.'"
But had the RFL been offered Saints stadium at Market value then saints would have still lost a million because the market has already valued the stadium at a million less. If the market value of Wheldon road was enough to build Cas a new stadium then the stadium would have been sold and Cas would be building their new stadium.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Correct including the Bulls not being able to afford the rent the council expected to cover costs, it could be either way, we dont know
But considering land prices are at an all time low, now isn't the time to sell a property that is showing a profit rental wise with a guaranteed tenant'"
Which would surely mean the actual capital investment made by the RFL being very very low as the value of Odsal would be very very low.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Would it not be more likely that there have been (as mentioned in the release) that Odsal was subject to 'predatory approaches' and that left the club in a position where the Stadium could be sold out from underneath them, turned in to a supermarket and Bradford were homeless. '"
Exactly. The RFL has stepped in to save the Bulls.
Others have been rendered homeless by the sale of their grounds. Why should the Bulls be treated any differently? The RFL was free to step in and buy Knowsley Road anytime they wanted. We were homeless for a season.
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| I would guess the running costs of Odsal to meet H&S standards would be very high.
We need some transparency here as surely the RFL serves the game and its fans. If it is able to help a member club whilst justifying the commerciality of the agreement then all well and good. If it has left the sport short of cash or in debt as a consequence then that is not acceptable imo.
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