Batemen still ran behind him though, which he did not have to, classic shepard in any era.

Williams has done the majority of the kicking

Or just had an off day in a close series against a team determined not to get whitwashed.

Poor result today but kiwis very clinical and series won.

Dont let the facts get in the way of a good scapegoat agenda.

Maybe but Williams at least put a few decent ones in whereas Myler, everyone he's attempted was poor.

Hodgson is a joke and Myler is never an international halfback. I don’t get the praise Bateman has received this series either. Too many offloads to the floor and runs sideways.

Scapegoat agenda

, just an observation. What is this because he's a Leeds player you can't criticise him or something.

Think today showed that it was a bit premature last week to nail names to shirts for 12 months time.

Williams kicking was very poor, only saw Myler kick the ball once throughout the game tbh, with ball in hand I thought Williams played quite well, probably one of or better players.

hodgson puts the tackling in and at times has provided good ball but we looked so much better with Clarke at Hooker imo.

No not at all, Myler didn’t have a good game but Williams had the majority of the kicking and I don’t recall any good kicks by any England whether it was them two or Hodgson or Lonax.

I posted it after Myler had kicked long straight into an NZ player and then that awful cross-field kick.



Agree Williams running game was pretty good tonight though and asked some questions of the NZ defense.