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| I don't understand peoples fixation. England are never going to beat Australia again and looking at the Kiwis coming through in the NRL are unlikely to better them any time soon. Face facts RL in England has 10% of the funding and 10% of the profile of Australian RL and ARL doesn't have a main competitor in its main cities to compete with. You can fill every SL club in England with 25 English players and it won;t make one jot to the WC or quad nations outcomes, imo.
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| Quote nick hkr="nick hkr" and all the help the RFL has given you.'"
All what help?
We're not the ones moving players off and on roster at will...we arent the ones with twice the number intended of overseas players. Dont talk about Help from the RFL.......we've had little if any.
Planted in London, given the same money as everyone else and told to get on with it......hardly helpful if you ask me and as for attracting players...I rent my 1 bedroom flat out in Brentford....hardly park lane, but I get over a grand a month for it....I suspect I'd get considerably more in East Hull....but hey, we did it on the same cash as everyone else got.....hardly helping us.
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| Without demands from Sky I highly doubt there would be a club from the capital playing in the top flight. I agree your club brought a lot to the table for other SL clubs but if you seriously think the RFL haven't let you off through the years then those blinkers need taking off.
One of the richest men in the world owned your club yet you make a point about only getting the same money as everyone else? There is a train service that takes under 3hrs from Hull to Kings Cross at pretty reasonable prices if you buy early enough, maybe try renting a 1 bedroom flat up here for £70 a week and use what you save getting to and from London for work?!
"We're not the ones moving players off and on roster at will" so we have done it (not in its entirity yet either) ONCE and that is "at will"??
Having double the number intended yet still not broken any rules. How many qualify for the World Cup for other countries? Newton - USA, Vella - Malta, Lovegrove - England, Fisher - Scotland, Mason - Tonga. And if all works out for him Galea - Malta. We are not only helping the English national side but also the world of Rugby League, we have seen the bigger picture, it is not just about England but about having countries for England to compete against!!!!! We are not selfish and just think of our own, multi-cultural club us!!!
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Yes and No.
Harlequins Rugby League have never had any dispensation on players of overseas origin.....and I believe have the joint least number of overseas players on their books this year along with Huddersfield.
London RL, also known as the Broncos were given dispensation because they were to all extensive purposes a new team. The were permitted a number of overseas players (I believe it was 13 to start with) on the condition that they reduce this number to the same as everyone else by 2002. This they did and we were pretty much playing on a level field from 2003 onwards......not bad really for a club that was only 15 years old at the time SL started (as I alluded to above, it was actually pretty much a brand spanking new club) and 22yrs old by the time their quota rules were the same as the rest of the league.
Now, you also mentioned Catalans and Crusaders. Whilst there is a rich herritage of RL in south west France, this was pretty much destroyed during the 2nd world war. As a result, they are defined as an expansion club....as are the cottage burners in wrexham. Catalans Dragons Joined SL in 2006.....this is their 10th year as a club. Crusaders are in their 3rd year in SL and are, I believe, 8yrs old this year.
Hull Kingston Rovers are 129 years old this year........they are situated in an area that is rumoured to be a Rugby League Heartland, yet feel the need to stretch their overseas quota to bursting point, even having to make one player a tea boy to make room for a marquee player supposed to boost your average gates to break even level finance and help you kick on from your commendable showing in the previous seasons of SL rugby.
Now....I don't know about you, but using the massive dispensation given to teams designed to grow the game in new areas (or rebuild it in one desimated by the Nazis) to justify the years of neglect of any form of club culture of development is a tad crass.
I have no problem with your ability to stretch the quota to busrting point...what I do have a problem with lame finger pointing excuses like "they did it first"......your club is 3 times the age of the combined total of the expansion clubs...don't use them to explain your own clubs shortcomings.
Lastly...and this is quite important too. It has never been proven beyond doubt that SKY demanded a London Franchise as part of the original SL deal, but it would be a very odd decision to have "fastracked" us as roofs puts it if they Hadn't...therefore, we got our original dispensation as a direct result of RL getting a cash injection that pretty much rescued it as a sport. Without us and probably without the Welsh and dirty French, your club would still be playing games with amateur/semi-pro players in front of a few hundred fans in mid winter whilst Wigan continued to win every trophy going apaert from the occasional season when another club nearly bankrupted themselves trying to play catch up .....but hey, apparently us cockneys bring nothing to the game
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| Quote nick hkr="nick hkr"
Having double the number intended yet still not broken any rules. How many qualify for the World Cup for other countries? Newton - USA, Vella - Malta, Lovegrove - England, Fisher - Scotland, Mason - Tonga. And if all works out for him Galea - Malta. We are not only helping the English national side but also the world of Rugby League, we have seen the bigger picture, it is not just about England but about having countries for England to compete against!!!!! We are not selfish and just think of our own, multi-cultural club us!!!'"
What has Newton qualifying for the USA, Vella Malta, Fisher Scotland, Mason Tonga, and Galea Malta got to do with HKA? They Qualify for these nations anyway, moving to HKA hasnt affected it one bit. Even if they were all still in Australia they would still qualify, hell Masons already represented Tonga.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"What has Newton qualifying for the USA, Vella Malta, Fisher Scotland, Mason Tonga, and Galea Malta got to do with HKA? They Qualify for these nations anyway, moving to HKA hasnt affected it one bit. Even if they were all still in Australia they would still qualify, hell Masons already represented Tonga.'"
You need to lighten up and take certain points of peoples posts in the context they were written.
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| Quote nick hkr="nick hkr"You need to lighten up and take certain points of peoples posts in the context they were written.'"
At a best guess TA knows as much as he actually says he does and is very very bitter at Mason choosing Rovers over Leeds so is venting his spline at our fans. Either that or he hates the fact that teams like Rovers can now sign the likes of the Galeas, Dobsons and Masons instead of yesteryear where we had to rely on them releasing the likes of Murrell (who is a young Brit we gave a chance instead of releasing).
I could however be Reading him all wrong and breaking/bending some forum rule that he can site me on!!!!
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| Quote chukabutt="chukabutt"At a best guess TA knows as much as he actually says he does and is very very bitter at Mason choosing Rovers over Leeds so is venting his spline at our fans. Either that or he hates the fact that teams like Rovers can now sign the likes of the Galeas, Dobsons and Masons instead of yesteryear where we had to rely on them releasing the likes of Murrell (who is a young Brit we gave a chance instead of releasing).
I could however be Reading him all wrong and breaking/bending some forum rule that he can site me on!!!!'"
Leeds were never in for Mason, we have nowhere near the SC space for him. Nor the quota space but then again, neither did HKA so thats not really important.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Leeds were never in for Mason, we have nowhere near......the quota space but then again, neither did HKA so thats not really important.'"
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Leeds were never in for Mason, we have nowhere near the SC space for him. Nor the quota space but then again, [uneither did HKA [/uso thats not really important.'"
I think you'll fjnd we do.
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| Quote Dudley="Dudley"I think you'll fjnd we do.'"
...only because you're "special" 
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