Think Paul White is still injured.If you'd seen the reserves at Cas on Saturday I don't think you'd be pushing the case for Jewitt and Turner.Jewitt played his usual game,bags of enthusiasm,but then got sin-binned for back-chat.That's the last thing we need at the moment.I was a big fan of Turner last season But on his performance on Saturday he should not be in the 1st team,his tackling really needs to improve.Shame because I think he has bags of potential.

I agree about the intensity of the tackling,but on the few occasions we did move up,we got pulled for offside.It really is a fine line and something to be worked on in training

Wasn't there Saturday, but if it was anything like Wakefield then it can't have been good. Have to say I agree with a lot of your comments though. We need to get some genuine pace on the wings, but if Wilshire played as badly as he did at Wakefield then I'd be questioning his place before Henry's, as he looked good against Celtic.



I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can't fault Stuart Littler for effort and commitment, but he's just never been good enough and the club need to find someone who can take his place. If we are going to progress then Turner needs to be in the team. I'm not saying he was amzing in every game last year but there were signs of sheer class out of him last year.



The lack of pushing up by the defensive line needs addressing quickly. It has been the same for too long now and it can't be the fault of two good coaches. I hate to ask the question, mainly because I think that I know the answer, but who is the leading the line????????????? A possibly a more common factor!!!!!



As for the Nash issue, never been impressed by him but if the coaches think he has the ability then he needs game time. Personally I think Jewitt and Sidlow deserve a place ahead of him.



To wrap it up I remember back to 2004 when we got humped by Hull FC. Karl Harrison didn't make excuses he just told them to buck their ideas.

Take your rose tinted fooking specs off, if people want to moan they pay there money so why shouldn't they?????? Why should we accept it when we travel to west Yorkshire just to be humiliated like a bunch of fools? If we concede 50+ against cas ( no disrespect) what will it be at saints in two weeks?? If the players don't perform why should we stick up & make excuses for them?? we have done that for too many years now and i for one want to see a bit of pride & passion back in the jersey.



I for one dint expect a win on Saturday but its the manor in which we lost im annoyed about.



Its not us that need the wake up call mate its they players

Its not just 3 games though is it?? Yeah maybe 3 this season, but what about last year?? 4 away wins in the National leagues is just unaccatable. I'm sorry, but the style of rugby we play is boring and predictable, I know because I go and watch it every fookin week!!!

Fair comments ...but let's be a little analytical:

Wakefield - we were still on the coach for 20 minutes. Once we woke up, it wasn't too bad ... not good but better than Warri could find.



Cas really impressed me - tey're stepping back to set up plays that constantly pulled defensive positions out of place and then quck passing to utilise the gaps reminded me of the classy Cas of the late 60's - and 70's.



They played differently to a lot of teams - most (in both SL and NL) still drive up two/three times close to the play-the-ball before any passing moves are put in. Our defense were in place for this but not for what happened. The attacks came 30/40 metres apart tagettting different players and slanting in to cause overlaps.. Moving Alker to second row seemed to compensate but we were well behind by then. Fitz constantly has 2/3 players to tackle.



There have been comments about the experience in our team. Like it or not NRL is different from SL - SL expects quicker off-the-mark moves and more passing.





Cas impressed. We need to be patient.

so the attidude seems to be ,Well we`ve got 3 years to get things right...........ok so what would happen if us fans didnt buy a season ticket until the third year then ?

Then there'd be f*ck all money coming into the club and there'd be no chance at all of us improving over the next three years.

Simply not good enough. As for this three years nonsense- then why not play the youngsters rather than the tried and trusted flops.



I hate to say it but McRae has not and is not doing a good job.



Something needs to change fast.

At a guess, because a team full of youngsters would be battered even more comprehensively.



After a few months of being battered repeatedly these youngsters would then start looking elsewhere, for a team with better chances of winning some games.



Did anyone ever think tat perhaps the reason we've managed to keep hold of promising youngsters is that they want to rub shoulders, and compete for places, against experienced SL players (eg. Paul, Talau) and ex-NRL players (eg. Cashmere, Smith, Swain).



Why would Myler, Turner, Ratchford et al want to stay at a club where they're the best players??

Thats not necessarily true. Cas have fielded a lot youngsters over the past 3 years, we've been battered repeatedly and we've still got all of them at the club. If they want to play and they're from the area they won't want to jump ship. And besides, they've got a better chance of getting a game because of situations like this one.

It is not simply a case of just youngsters but a spine supported by dedicated professionals. Not a selection of jaded, battered never beens who would sooner p!ss away what remains of their careers.



It is inexcusable not to play Turner, Sidlow, and Ratchford.

I really enjoyed last night, as did the other 3300 I am sure.



Who cares that we were rubbish. As you say, he needs time to develop a team. Twenty two months and counting...........................