Sorry Beezer, but we can only stay upbeat for so long, I'm nearly 21 and I've had enough all I've known is to be perfectly honest I don't know how you older folk cope

. Don't get me wrong ive had some great times that I wouldn't swap for the world and the high of Salford winning a game is the biggest high ever nothing comes close, but enough is enough now something must change!!

eh ! who are you calling old

stick with it your still young.salford will be better and the stadium will be built . Keep the faith.....

Do we have a Couch for Ave It to lye on so he can find out whats going on in his head?





Ive said it before Players change, Coaches change, people change, we change, adapting is the key, Salford itsnt the the team or the club i fell in love with imo is a shaddow of its former self for what it ment to me but in reality Salford City Reds has moved on, its more proffesional on and off the field, the players are technically better and we've got more more exposure with the trafford centre than we ever had before.



Dont look back and wish it was like the old days because life always moves forward and as soon as the club starts looking backwards at glory like swinton then we'll be in trouble.



Keep the faith and keep the chin up fella

I'm sorry but for me we have been out and out lied to, the club knew the stadium was highly unlikely to come in one time (if at all).

And it appears now we are loseing two of the brilliant youngsters we have on the books.



Sorry to be a doom monger but with the news that the RFL are chaseing clubs over the state of thier stadiums seems to be the first warning shots across the bows of the unfashionable clubs with hovels and a clear indication that we will be kicked out soon as the bids for the next rounds start.

Lets hope you are right REDRY and that JW and the rest are working frantically behind the scences, because if they are not in two years time we WONT be in the superleague.



And my response to the person who doesnt believe the club needs a relationship with its fans cos its an Americanism is talking through the whole in his/her rugby ball.



Why do you think there is a website or that the club lets the 4eva reds use the club etc. I suggest you look at some branding literature, it may be American but its proven, ask one of the clubs marketing department if you dont believe me and if you dont need a relationship why are you posting on here when the only thing you have in common with people is your RELATIONSHIP with the club.

And just exactly how do you KNOW that - it may be your opinion - it's my opinion that the club have not lied to us - there have been a set of events that could not have been foreseen which has lead to the current position.



Please tell us just what the club should, or could, have done differently - if you were chairman or a director what would you do?

Daz how can you say that? Do you know that it won't be built thus making the club liars?



I know for certain that there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes involving the big players in the delivery of the stadium (Not construction at this stage obviously) and the RFL are well aware of this and are also involved.



I've said it before and I will again, until I'm told by the main people (Not people on an Internet forum) that it isn't happening then I have no real reason to believe it wont.



Anyone have any evidence to the contrary?

beezer are you the person going to be building the stadium and what eveidence do you have that this is going to happen i aint heard out to convince me

That was me too I'm afraid.



I have a decent understanding of marketing and branding theory (it's all a bit soft IMO, I'm a PR Graduate

), I just fail to understand this idea that club owe us all something. When I buy a season ticket the transaction entitles me to attend Salford home games, not to know every single detail regarding the running of the club. I assume the fans are kept in the dark about the stadium because there's nothing good to report and any bad news released would cause uproar and further derail the project.



It doesn't aggrovate me that fans feel a connection with the club, obviously thats great, but the sense of entitlement some fans seem to have on the grounds that they pay to watch is astounding.

As I've said on another thread, what utter, utter nonsense.







What have you heard to suggest the stadium won't happen? I haven't heard anything to convince me yet, just a load of doom mongers spouting off.

Well simply put the club must know what an utter PR disaster the whole stadium debarcle is becomeing, if there is 'there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes involving the big players in the delivery of the stadium' then the club needs to move swiftly (if it is not already too late for some) to prevent the loss of fans and possibly sponsership (would you wish to be associated with what to many looks like a slowly sinking ship??).



Funny also that the RFL come out with a statement saying that certain clubs need address the stadium issue. As you know Paul i'm a fan, but i'm not going to show blind faith, the club needs to work harder to convince a great many fans that the dreams will become a reality and not turn into a a dead end nightmare.



I and others may not have evidence to the contrary but knowbody appears to have evidence that the stadium will get built.

Do you have any evidence that the stadium won't get built?