I agree. We have blamed coach after coach and nothing ever changes.A deeper look into the club as a whole is needed, and no I am not a McRae fan either.

No they wouldn't don't talk such crap, we have beaten the champions this season. We played what was in front of us and it was all over in 25 mins. Bit dissapointed we didn't rack up a bigger score but hey ho. Frankly the game was just a bit dull.

That has been the case for us for the past 3 years apart from the extremely rare occasion

yeh....and you got nilled too, we beat the champs last year but that didnt mean a team of a lower calibre couldnt beat us!



partly because theres not much below us but there you go

When did I say you couldn't beat us

read your last post and the one you were replying too...

mcrea has to go!!!!...were have we gone since he took charge ?...this season we have the smallest pack i have ever seen in super leauge....for me players such as parker...sidlow....sibbit.....fitzy...littler...big phil (lazyiest defender in super leauge!!)..are just not up to super leauge standerd!!..i am all for supporting my team and i will be their on saturday instead of sitting at home and i do not belive booing your team or even the coach will help inspire any kind of performance from them but mcrea and simms (who has taken the club for a ride for years!!) are any were near good enuth....personaly i think the players dont want to play for him..if i was a player i would react alot better to a coach who bangs on a tracksuite and stands on the sideline!! not watching from the stand in his comfy chair thinking of what posatives he can make up to put in the manchester evening news!!..i mite be wrong but maybe a few changes team wise are needed!! parker bakc to second row...j.smith back to 7..M.smith hooker off the bench...fitzy droped...henry to full back..gibson to the centre and tyrer to wing but im no coach i could well be wrong

ohhh and swain to second row with holdworth loose and stef stand off

defient red



thats where some of your comments are coming from.

defiant red before moving into Rugby league coaching buy a dictionary and sort out some of your text like prose.

Personally, I think he's got a point somewhere in there.



We're an awful side and going nowhere. We've gone backwards since we finished fifth, that just isn't acceptable for anyone. So who do we blame?



Well the obvious one is the coach. Finds positives in every performance when there clearly isn't any, comes out with the same, tired old platitudes every week and clearly offers nothing to the team in terms of training or motivation. The same, boring, predictable rugby week in, week out is really, really shocking. How he gets away with it, I don't know.



Then there's obviously the players. Rumours abound that some don't like the coach and refuse to put the full effort in because of him. Obviously it's alleged, but considering what happened with Harrison it just wouldn't surprise me. Not to mention 'Jacksonvillegate' - player power undermining club management, wonderful. Then, of course, there's the effort and attitude which just isn't there for some of them. A lot of them, including some older, more established players who should know better, need to take a long, hard look at themselves.



I know this last part is going to stir up a hornet's nest, but I think Wilky and the directors need to take a long hard look at things, too. Before anyone starts, I'm not questioning their loyalty and dedication and I know full well that without them, we wouldn't have a club to support. But the club's is such a shocking state at the moment, not just on the pitch, but also off it in too many areas. I'm sure JW wouldn't stand for poor business practice at Wilkinson Star so why do things go unnoticed at the Willows? I'm sure they can see how badly things are on the pitch, so you'd think they'd step in and intervene somehow.



Things are a mess, unless they improve quickly, we'll only be moving in one direction. Backwards.

Very good post GT, and well put