So were just pretending the Fed trained & non fed trained quota doesn't exist then? Sincerely hope it's not true. I'm delighted were improving the squad but it'd be nice to have some british talent in the team. Hull KR are always getting ripped for their imports but I bet we'll be running at the most next season irrespective of 'dispensations' -



Meli

Puletua

Mullaney

Smith

Chase

McPherson

McGoldrick

Rapira

Sa'u

(Hodgson!?)



[size=85Edited to include Sa'u who I missed out. 9 overseas players already!![/size

I thought the last rumour was that he was going to join Nathan Brown on the St Helens coaching team.

That rumour may have been after last Saturday.

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No it's been sorted ...plenty of room for real quota players ...



Meli - Classed as Fed Trained .

Puletua - been at saints long enough to have a scouse accent- Fed Trained fella..

Mullaney - Sounds as Irish as Pat Richards

Smith - English with a Name like that must be .

Chase- he plays for England , And he's as English as Kevin Pietersen & Manu Tuilagi..

McPherson- Crusaders dispensation- I think the 3rd Crusade with Richard the lionheart.

McGoldrick - Club Trained - so old he first came over when we were still classed as Northern Union



Rapira -go on then he's quota

Middleman, you forgot Sa'u......

Meli,Sau and Puletua are not classed as Overseas players because they are exempt under the Cotonou Agreement with the EU.



Slightly different note..Jordan Davies is classed as a New Talent pool player and each club is allowed 2 of those.For the purpose of the salary cap his wage is calculated as zero for the first full year and 50% for the second full year.

The latter two are still Non-fed though surely?

meli sau and puletua dont count on overseas quota due to cotonou agreement (kolpak).



meli and puletua have exemptions from non fed trained quota due to being here when quota was introduced. Sau does not and will count as non fed trained.

If Sau holds a Samoan passport then he is also exempt under the revised Cotonou agreement.

Either way we have no worries with regards to our overseas quota.

Sau and Puletua are classed as Quota as they are both non fed trained, despite the Samoan Passport. Puletua arrived to play SL in 2009 so would count as Non Fed Trained



The quota no longer takes into account just Australian or NZ players, an example of this would be "Australian" Forward Anthony Lafrancchi, he holds and Italian Passport so would be classed a citizen of the EU but is included on our quota spots because he was trained under another federation other than European Super League/RFL.



Hope this clears the matter for you

Yes, but isn't the "overseas quota" largely redundant these days, having been pretty much superceded by the "non-federation" quota which was introduced to stop clubs filling their teams with people with EU heritage or from countries with EU trade agreements?

That's correct. Tony Puletua and Sau were trained by another Federation so will still count on your quota despite holding passports for a Kolpak country (Samoa).



So regardless of passport, as in my example I gave earlier with Anthony Lafrancchi, they still count as they were trained by another RL Federation.



The exemption only applies to players from Kolpak countries who were in Super League prior to the start of the 2008 Season

Somebody really does need to come out from the club & clarify if somebody has been given a special dispensation out of our new signings. There's no way around being non-fed trained. As has been said, a passport does not change where you grew up playing rugby. As it stands, it's an indisputable fact that we have more non fed trained players than were allowed under the current rules. Either dispensation has been given to somebody or we can't count!