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| Quote foggy="foggy"From the RFL site
When tackled: 2. A player in possession is tackled:
Grounded (a) when he is held by one or more opposing players and the ball or the hand or arm holding the ball comes into contact with the ground.
So how the hell was Tomkins try given last night, and also the try against us that also went to the video ref.'"
Has to be held, which means stopped, that is stopped completely. He wasn't which is why the try was given. He is a good un though don't you think????
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| Quote Ron="Ron"Of course it shouldn't have been a try, momentum was irrelevent as he wasn't going to slide over the line, as soon as your ball carrying arm hits the floor and a player has hold of you, thats tackle complete.
You can't decide, oh my ball carrying arm has hit the floor but because I am sliding I will bring it back up and plonk the ball down....
But there again Wigan seem to have their own special set of rules when it comes to a tackle being complete... the amount of holding down they get away with!'"

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| Quote Ian Roberts Closet="Ian Roberts Closet"c020.gif'"
with that one [uemicom [/uyou summed up your entire input/ knowledge, insight and rapier like wit. god i wish i could put such a well reasoned arguement accross! what a dingus!
oh afwiw it was a try!
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| 50/50 this one. I'm sure if it had been a Wire player you would have thought it a try.... Whats it like being 3 points behind?
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| i already stated last night i wouldn't expect it to be given.
Whats it like to be on the verge of a ban from this forum?
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| Quote Ron="Ron"Of course it shouldn't have been a try, momentum was irrelevent as he wasn't going to slide over the line, as soon as your ball carrying arm hits the floor and a player has hold of you, thats tackle complete.
You can't decide, oh my ball carrying arm has hit the floor but because I am sliding I will bring it back up and plonk the ball down....
But there again Wigan seem to have their own special set of rules when it comes to a tackle being complete... the amount of holding down they get away with!'"
Garbage....He wasn't held at all, players were simply hanging onto him, they had not stopped his momentum, thus Tomkins was completely within his rights to stretch his arm out to score.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"Garbage....He wasn't held at all, players were simply hanging onto him, they had not stopped his momentum, thus Tomkins was completely within his rights to stretch his arm out to score.'"
I was talking about the rules of SL, of course what you state may be correct regarding Wigan... Just out of curiosity, what does it say in the Wigan rule book regarding offside (7 metres back I gather) and holding down (as long as neccesary).
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| Quote Ron="Ron"I was talking about the rules of SL, of course what you state may be correct regarding Wigan... Just out of curiosity, what does it say in the Wigan rule book regarding offside and holding down.'"
I don't know, I guess they have the same book as we do at Wire??
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"I don't know, I guess they have the same book as we do at Wire??'"
No in the SL rulebook, if the ball carrying arm hits the deck when you are held by an opponent whether you're moving or not... you can't then decide to bring that arm back up and reach out with it.
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| Quote Ron="Ron"No in the SL rulebook, if the ball carrying arm hits the deck when you are held by an opponent whether you're moving or not... you can't then decide to bring that arm back up and reach out with it.'"
Didn't someone quote the rule that a player is tackled when sliding when his slide stops, so until he stops he isn't tackled and can in theory reach for the line. Or did I imagine that?
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| Quote SLIMply no treble!="SLIMply no treble!"with that one emicom you summed up your entire input/ knowledge, insight and rapier like wit. god i wish i could put such a well reasoned arguement accross! what a dingus!
oh afwiw it was a try!'"
You'd do better if you could read; I didn't post that or anything else on this thread thus far. Back in your cage.
Fair try, ball carrying arm didn't touch the floor whilst held by the opposition player, reaches out for the try; it happens pretty much every week.
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