I should think so too.....I nearly had to have aversion therapy, then



phew



Apology accepted haha



my Lefty bit comes from a Monty Python sketch, and bears no political leanings

Please accept my apology. "Lefty" used to post assiduously on here and appeared to be a poorly educated, raving, communist. He promised to "splatter my face all across the HJ Stadium" as he disagreed with me once. Nice chap, mate of the liberal TANCW if I recall and frequenter of The Lower Angel. I oft go in there to meet him to no avail. I do hope his job is shortly outsourced to the nice, private, Dutch firm TNT and we finally get daily post delivered before 3pm.

I remember your 'spats' well, before I started posting on here. They livened up many a dull morning at work.



Where have the two afforementioned posters gone?

Are they spin-doctoring for George Galloway's Respect party

Last I heard TANCW was in Libya mopping the brow of the ailing Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, as for Lefty he was steadfastly refusing to deliver mail due to an infringement of his human rights to lie in bed, cranking one off shouting "Power to the People" to his beleaguered partner.

Thank you, Citizen.

Quote Wires71="Wires71"Hope they were muzzled. Reckless owners if not. Probably only realise their responsibility when said dog chews a babies face off/kills child as they seem to do with startling regularity. Owner, probably unemployed, feckless then states in stupid bewilderment "but my Fido would not normally hurt a fly". news.scotsman.com/news/Baby-kill ... 4959159.jp'" People like you me right off, Staffs are not all like that it's how there trained, your just being stereotypical and tarring them all with the same brush. Will can all find a news report as well, [url=http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/208644/20110905/dog-kills-baby-texas.htmLabrador kills a baby[/url Staffs seem to be the in thing with chavs and it's these people who turn these once friendly dogs into savages.

Quote Wires71="Wires71"Hope they were muzzled. Reckless owners if not. Probably only realise their responsibility when said dog chews a babies face off/kills child as they seem to do with startling regularity. Owner, probably unemployed, feckless then states in stupid bewilderment "but my Fido would not normally hurt a fly". news.scotsman.com/news/Baby-kill ... 4959159.jp'" People like you me right off, Staffs are not all like that it's how there trained, your just being stereotypical and tarring them all with the same brush. Will can all find a news report as well, [url=http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/208644/20110905/dog-kills-baby-texas.htmLabrador kills a baby[/url Staffs seem to be the in thing with chavs and it's these people who turn these once friendly dogs into savages.

One "staff" tearing a child's cardio vascular system apart (as duly evidenced by the report) is one too many in my opinion. You never hear of a cat doing same. They are by logical deduction lethal. I'm sorry if I you off but facts are facts. We do not have to agree nor make it personal.



The fact is they are an aggressive mammal and left in the hands of the sub-class (who incidentally can scarcely raise a child sufficiently well enough to attend school, read or write and respect law and order) they are lethal.



Why is it always these fatal/hideously marring dog attacks happen, almost without exception, within council estates? In fact why do most child abuse cases arise from the very same places?

Exactly, brought up properly, it's just another dog. Give the idiots a spaniel and they'd make it a fighter.

Are you really suggesting a Poodle and Rottweiler have the exact same inbuilt propensity and natural inclination to attack children/other dogs/other living things?



PS The article you quote refers to a Labrador mix, I see you failed to point that out in your debate.

Yes. Poodles were bred iirc for use by the French police and military. But the fact of the matter is, that no dog has an inbuilt propensity to attack. Of course, all dogs have a natural "prey drive", they are after all predators as a species. however, any dog, regardless of breed, that Is exercised properly, disciplined and socialised, will not cause a problem in a society as a domestic animal. The unfortunate thing is for staffies, is they are traditionally a working dog much the same as jack russells, and as with all terriers, have the inbuilt action to shake things, rats etc.. This is what causes the damage when one is left to it's own devices. Any dog is capable of causing death, but the issues surrounding staffies now, has already befallen rotties, alsatians, and Doberman as breeds, and that is, once the idiots get their hands on them, it's inevitable that incidents increase.

If we accept this, and I note you quote no scientific evidence to advance your claim on the similarity of dog breeds and vicious attacks, then surely the 'idiots' should be stopped from having access from "dogs capable of causing death". The feckless scum can scarcely look after themselves never mind society at large. I'd have them stopped from having children too, which they will no doubt abuse.

Ridiculous comparison debunking Timmy the Koi's argument of canine species vs potential danger to the populous. Which one is more likely to expose your trachea (windpipe) in your opinion? If you think the same, side with Timmy.



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