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| Quote Builth Wells Wire="Builth Wells Wire"www.eraofthebiff.com/announcements/p114-des-drummond-offiah-and-goalposts-by-dave-hands-warrington'"
Had a look at that site for Les Boyd, in a lot of the videos he seemed to be playing with a number 9 on his shirt. Did he play hooker over there? (Sorry in advance for drifting).
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| 1. Brett Hodgson
2. Joel Monaghan
3. Matt King
4. Toa Kohe-Love
5. Chris Hicks
6. Lee Briers
7. Alan Langer
8. Adrian Morley
9. Michael Monaghan
10. Gareth Carvell
11. Ben Westwood
12. Trent Waterhouse
13. Paul Sculthorpe
14. Daryl Clark
15. Tawera Nikau
16. David Solomona
17. Brent Grose
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| Quote Captain Hook="Captain Hook"Had a look at that site for Les Boyd, in a lot of the videos he seemed to be playing with a number 9 on his shirt. Did he play hooker over there? (Sorry in advance for drifting).'"
In the old NSW comp they numbered the pack in a (to us) unusual manner with the back row wearing 8,9 and 10, the props 11 and 13 and hooker at 12. Can't remember when they changed it to concur with the rest of the RL world. It may have been the advent of Super League.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"I see most people have Drummond in their team. I put Hicks and Joel Monaghan in over him, a bit controversially. Dessie was a better athlete, in terms of his speed and acceleration, than either of them. JM was not in the same league as Dessie for athleticism. So why go JM ahead of him?
I had two question marks over Des.
First was, he could be a bit prone to errors. He wasn't the best under the high ball, and I think rival teams didn't exploit it as much as they would against others, probably out of respect/fear for Dessie and maybe they thought if you bomb him from distance and he takes it cleanly there could be trouble on if he had open space in front of him to build up speed. Also he did knock on sometimes, again out of respect for Des he didn't get the usual groans and moans that other players would have got from the Fletcher St End, it was just an awkward sigh.
Second was, considering Dessie's abilities, he never seemed to score that many tries. He scored some great ones for sure, and when the ball was working its way out to his side of the field you felt that only a small overlap needed to be on and he would burn off any defender round the outside. But he was less prolific than Forster and Tony Thorniley, who didn't have Dessie's physical gifts, in the years I saw him.
Admittedly I only saw his last couple of seasons, and maybe he was on the decline then and he was better when he first signed from Leigh, which others who have him in their all time teams saw.'"
You must be a similar age to myself, with a much better memory.
I remember dessie, and also have the same memories of him being error prone. I seem to remember a few passes being fumbled into touch with space ahead of him. Then there was the pace that couldn't really be matched. One thing that I don't think is in doubt, is how how tough he was.
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| On the subject of Dessie, he acquired the nickname of 'Teflon' for his latter years with us. 'Dessie with the non stick hands' one jolly chap used to shout from the scoreboard corner.
Yes he was error prone but was still a great finisher even when the blinding pace had gone and his defence was always fierce despite his technique being his own.
As another poster mentioned we should have tried to get Des and John Woods 3 or 4 years earlier than we did. Woods and Andy Gregory would have been a hell of a half combination.
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| Quote Matt King's kitten="Matt King's kitten"and his defence was always fierce despite his technique being his own.
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I enjoyed Mike Forshaw's story about making his debut (for Wigan) against Warrington, and being on the receiving end of Des tackling him with his head, and lying on the ground winded thinking "is rugby league really the game for me...?" 
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| The other thing I remember about watching Dessie run, was how natural his running form was. His head and body were virtually still, carried along by a blur of legs. He looked like a track sprinter with a ball under his arm. Other players who were breaking clear would look like they were straining to stay ahead of the chasers, Des just looked like speed came easy. I don't remember him doing many sidesteps or jinking round people, he just hugged the touchline and backed himself to beat people for speed.
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| Joel monaghan scored a try per game. Chris hicks scored the best hat trick Wembley has ever seen. Yet every person who has seen dessie play in 87/88 has to choose which one of those 2 to leave out. That tells you all you need to know about Des!
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| Roughly started watching in 2002/03.
1. Brett Hodgson
2. Joel Monaghan
3. Martin Gleeson
4. Matt King
5. Chris Hicks
6. Lee Briers
7. Chris Sandow
8. Adrian Morley
9. Michael Monaghan
10. Gareth Carvell
11. LAnderson
12. Trent Waterhouse
13. Ben Westwood
14. Daryl Clark
15. Stefan Ratchford
16. Chris Hill
17. Paul Wood
Notable mentions to: Simon Grix, Ben Harrison, Ben Currie pushing at back row/loose forward. At fullback Grose scored some impressive tries but Hodgson really made us tick when he joined along with Monas & Briers. Atkins, Bridge and Hiku all had impressive stints but for raw athleticism I went for King and in terms of pure skill & being able to find your winger I went for Gleeson, regardless of the reputation off the field. Again, same reasons for Sandow based on talent - just so creative and could spark a try out of thin air, although I did love Nat Woods grittiness and never say die attitude. Austin has the potential to displace Sandow if he can continue his good form from last year and stay injury free with us for a couple more years. No wingers other than Charnley really come into my head, in terms of who can win you a game in the final seconds or score a freakish try like them. Hicks’ & Mona’s try scoring records speak for themselves and come the big games they never shied way.
I think our most formidable pack in the last twenty years was when we had the likes Morley, Carvell, Hill, Wood, Harrison and Cooper all rotating off one and other from 2009-2012. It’s a shame and really disappointing we’ve been unable to have a big aggressive intimating pack since that period.. it’s definitely an area we’ve struggled in recruitment wise since the other four above retired/moved on.
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| Quote Moe syslak="Moe syslak"Joel monaghan scored a try per game. Chris hicks scored the best hat trick Wembley has ever seen. Yet every person who has seen dessie play in 87/88 has to choose which one of those 2 to leave out. That tells you all you need to know about Des!'"
Dezzie was exciting to watch, but I do remember the 'error prone' bit and that's really why I put him being Hicks and Monaghan.
I also remember the infamous Boxing Day match at Naughton Park when all hell let loose and Dezzie punched a spectator. That made the national news! (And we lost I think)
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| Quote Mighty_Wires88="Mighty_Wires88"Roughly started watching in 2002/03.
1. Brett Hodgson
2. Joel Monaghan
3. Martin Gleeson
4. Matt King
5. Chris Hicks
6. Lee Briers
7. Chris Sandow
8. Adrian Morley
9. Michael Monaghan
10. Gareth Carvell
11. LAnderson
12. Trent Waterhouse
13. Ben Westwood
14. Daryl Clark
15. Stefan Ratchford
16. Chris Hill
17. Paul Wood
Notable mentions to: Simon Grix, Ben Harrison, Ben Currie pushing at back row/loose forward. At fullback Grose scored some impressive tries but Hodgson really made us tick when he joined along with Monas & Briers. Atkins, Bridge and Hiku all had impressive stints but for raw athleticism I went for King and in terms of pure skill & being able to find your winger I went for Gleeson, regardless of the reputation off the field. Again, same reasons for Sandow based on talent - just so creative and could spark a try out of thin air, although I did love Nat Woods grittiness and never say die attitude. Austin has the potential to displace Sandow if he can continue his good form from last year and stay injury free with us for a couple more years. No wingers other than Charnley really come into my head, in terms of who can win you a game in the final seconds or score a freakish try like them. Hicks’ & Mona’s try scoring records speak for themselves and come the big games they never shied way.
I think our most formidable pack in the last twenty years was when we had the likes Morley, Carvell, Hill, Wood, Harrison and Cooper all rotating off one and other from 2009-2012. It’s a shame and really disappointing we’ve been unable to have a big aggressive intimating pack since that period.. it’s definitely an area we’ve struggled in recruitment wise since the other four above retired/moved on.'"
Pretty much agree with your sentiments from a 2002/3 starting point.
Sandow was just unbelievable and unplayable during his purple patch. Every time he got the ball he seemed to make things happen.
Such a shame his life was so chaotic off the pitch.
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You've not done yours, yet, LTS.'"
1. Hodgson
2. J. Monaghan
3. King
4. J. Davies
5. Hicks
6. Briers
7. Langer
8. Morley
9. M. Monaghan
10. Hill
11. Westwood
12. Grix
13. Gregory
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