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| Quote Ron="Ron"But it is irrelevent whether he hurt Harrison or not ( I agree h didn't seem to hurt him)... its the fact he attempted to thats the problem.
Like I said, attempted eye gouging should be an 8 game minimum ban (this mean attempted, not actually succeeding in causing damage).. if he had actually caused permanent damage to Harrison eyes he would be lucky to play rugby ever again if it was up to me.'"
I agree with you, attempted eye gouge ( banned until next season ) and if there were any damage whatsoever to Ben Harrison whether it be a shiner or damage to sight then a lengthy ban would to a lifetime ban would ensue, [uthis is the point Ive been trying to get across [/uand getting shot down from all angles.
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| When is Hocks hearing?
Anything less than a 6 game ban will be a let off for Hock and another signal that the RFL disciplinary procedure is a joke.
His defense will be that it was purely accidental contact with the eyes, which it probably was at first however once he knew where is hand/fingers were the video evidence clearly shows he intentionally tried to gouge.
There is absolutely no room in the game of RFL for this kind of vicious assault and the RFL need to make an example out of this pillock.
As an aside we also need to know why Hock has these apparant unprovoked anger outbursts. Does he need anger management courses or is he taking something which caused him to lose the plot.
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| Fingers clearly go into the eyes and he pulls the head back while doing it.
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| As much as I'm loath to say it, Yawnion is well ahead of us on bans for gouging. Two years ago, two french players got very, very lengthy bans (two and three years respectively iirc) for gouges that weren't much worse than Hock's. Now admittedly in the rolling around code you can't defend yourself at the bottom of a ruck but as far as I'm concerned if anyone is caught deliberately going for someone elses eyes that should be a full season at least. God only knows how the pies can defend someone grabbing another player by the eyeballs on the basis that "he can still see, I don't know why you're fussing", to make another RU comparison the Saffa coach said that the Lions team should try ballet after an SA player nearly blinded a Lions player - it's nice to know Wiganers are in the same level of total brain death as him.
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| Quote post="post"I agree with you, attempted eye gouge ( banned until next season ) and if there were any damage whatsoever to Ben Harrison whether it be a shiner or damage to sight then a lengthy ban would to a lifetime ban would ensue, [uthis is the point Ive been trying to get across [/uand getting shot down from all angles.'"
The problem is, you said attempted eye gouging should be a 2 game ban..... 
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| The fact that Hock tried to get the first punch in as Harrison was gaining his feet is as much as an admission of guilt that you are going to get. Hock knew what he had done and was probably expecting Harrison to get up and lamp him one, so he tried to get the first hit in with an upper cut which largely missed its target.
I thought Harrison was very restrained and showed a great deal of self control, not many people would have stood for that without trying to inflict some serious damage in retaliation. In all honesty though I think Harrison is missing a real mean streak that would make him a player to be feared and i dont mean through dirty play
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| Quote Colin_Fishwick="Colin_Fishwick"The fact that Hock tried to get the first punch in as Harrison was gaining his feet is as much as an admission of guilt that you are going to get. Hock knew what he had done and was probably expecting Harrison to get up and lamp him one, so he tried to get the first hit in with an upper cut which largely missed its target.
I thought Harrison was very restrained and showed a great deal of self control, not many people would have stood for that without trying to inflict some serious damage in retaliation. In all honesty though I think Harrison is missing a real mean streak that would make him a player to be feared and i dont mean through dirty play'"
On the restraint, I agree with you here 100%.
I'd also go as far as to say that Harrison did him a favour by not making a big deal of it at the time, had it have been on Tomkins for example, he'd have still been laid flat out now.
I'm not sure ref the lack of aggression, he hits as hard as any player we have.
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| What time does the hearing take place?
Been on the RFL disciplinary page but still no news.
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| Quote oli30045="oli30045"2 charges from 9 trips I think that his record speaks for itself:
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary?player=Gareth+Hock&club=Wigan&from_day=&from_month=&from_year=&to_day=&to_month=&to_year=&league=&charged=&search=searchLink[/url'"
9 trips....cocaine....what next? Heroin?
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| Quote Mark="Mark"9 trips....cocaine....what next? Heroin?'"
Isn't crack meant to give you dark rings under the eyes, sunken cheeks, pronounced cheekbones etc?
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| Hock has got 5 game ban according to posts on twitter....
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| "Unfortunate" and Wigan don't "Condone" it.
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