First off, im not wanting to start another thread moaning (even though i do like a moan)... I'm just wondering what people think we can get from the remainder of the season....We're not that far away from half way now... Won 5 Lost 6... I would like to think we can push on in the second half of the season and end up in the top 6.



leeds , Saints, Wigan and surprisingly cas all seem to be much better than us at the moment. We know that anything can happen in the playoffs, but im expecting an early exit in all honesty.



We could push on and win the challenge cup. But that's going to need some big performances that we probably don't have in us.



So whats the best we can hope for this season? a trip to wembley?



With cap space in hand and big earners leaving in the summer, they will almost certainly be a big recruitment drive before next season starts... have you wrote this season off in your head already?



I'm certainly viewing our games with a certain level of apathy now... I think ive resigned myself to quite a few more defeats and abject displays.



I'm already looking forward to next year, which is bound to be our year

(just like the last one)

End of November last year I wrote off Man Utds season, I've done the same with Wire this season.

I'll still go to what I can, still join in with everything but my trophy expectations are zero.

Not me Yed. I've got renewed faith in TS.



Challenge cup and GF double.

4th in league.



But we need to get forwards back.

I think you're deluding yourself, I want to think we can but can't see it.



We can when needed defend quite well although I've seen a lot of soft tries this season, dummy half scoots from 1 metre out. Our lack of pace, we have Penny, Atkins and Currie (a forward) with genuine pace and that's it.



Our attack is dreadful, I mean personally the worst in SL. Forget stats on for and against, we are shocking going forward, I've seen London a few times this year and actually think they have more clue going forward.



A fully fit squad means we'll get some good yards in the forwards (bar Asotasi) and set a platform but our backs look like they only started playing the game at the beginning of the season, there is no cohesion whatsoever and I just don't know how or when they are going to solve it.

Tonight. Keep the faith.

yea.. Cooper, Carvell and Morley

It was pointed out by Phil Clarke that we are passing the ball less than any other team in SL now. Only 144 passes made in that Bradford game.



Seems the team doesn't have much confidence in themselves either.

I am a bit gloomy, mainly because I am disappointed in TS. It is not worth covering the ground of half back and props, because I think everyone agrees what is needed. We will get a new hooker next year. But, whilst we try and find several new players, we will be faced with further problems in the short term. Waterhouse's contract ends this year and Benny, Joel M, and Paul Wood will all be 33 next year - they will all need a replacement very soon, even if we do discover one of them is Peter Pan.



It is too late now, but we need to aim for a mix of ages in our future squads; a group of youngsters coming through and gaining experience (18-23) a group at their peak (25 ish) and a group of older players to provide leadership and experience (30 ish). That allows us more time to replace the older players and allow youngsters to come through gradually. I realise that it is an 'ideal' that is probably difficult to achieve, but we should be aiming for it. What we have ended up with is a sudden loss of a significant quality older players that will prove difficult to replace. We need better planning and management in the future.

The Bradford/Hull KR etc losses are one thing, but the biggest disappointment to me was how we played when up against Leeds, Saints, Wigan and Cas; if I'd seen any sign there that we were competitive I'd be prepared to have a bit of optimism. As it is if we get to the play-offs (which I think we will, but it isn't a given) I think we'll go out as soon as we meet any of those teams.



Not sure a CC tilt would paper over the cracks, but maybe a huge performance or two on that front could enthuse me.

We played well against Leeds but we had Hill and Wood fit.

At this time we only have 1 fit quality prop Hill and we need another. Asotasi is not it.

So unless we get both Wood and Hill back on the field together we will have to rely on the backs to front up.