Yep imagine never learning from your mistakes and overpaying for finished SL rejects time and time again.. Reynolds, Sau, Clark.. The trend is going right back to what brought us to the point of no return at the end of last season.

This. If DB is 'going for it' next year, that should mean contract offers for McNally, I Thornley, Forsyth, Cator, Douglas, T Adamson and Hood at the very least.



Sadly, I can't see that happening. We're heading back to old style ways, but with one year contracts in the name of sustainability. Sau and Higson have come in, and performances have dropped from when Forsyth and Cox were playing on that side. Clark and Thompson have come in, but are they playing any better than Brooks and Spencer have done this year?

I agree with you.



I would add, however, that bodies had to be brought in, to replace the DR players who have all been major contributors to our success to date. No way are Saints going to weaken their squad for the play-offs. Hopefully John has been able to absorb these guys into the squad, without disrupting team spirit - but I do wonder.

Fekk off Atomic. Browny points you child!! Gather youre in the fikk caant corner

Pass! Any questions on sport?

It would surprise me Snowy, I consider we are just not clinical enough in both attack and defence for a sustained effort against the top teams in the division, last 4 games- we couldnt break down a Widnes defence, Swinton scored 30 points against us, Rochdale beat us for more than half the game 50 mins, and Widnes again with a very understrength team we were not dominant against them, and 3 of those 4 games were at home, most likely we could have 3 away games in the play offs which would include trips to Toulouse and Toronto, we would need a great turnaround in application and attitude to win through and secure promotion, lets see how we go this week against a top 4 team.

Its not there yet, but you know its coming..Probably need a new coach at some point.

Well there will need to be a fall guy now he can't blame it all on Cunningham.

Whoever pays the Piper , calls the tune



If you don't like it , find the money to have your own tune played

Got a few who live in a place that has no resemblance to reality on here again, I wish they would find another club to "support" as there version of support is not mine. Do they know about the uncertain landscape beyond 2021 due to central funding? We must get back up quick or adjust to real financial cuts that would probably mean leaving LSV and going amateur

Go on then Mo enlighten us to what happens in 2021 (new TV deal I know of) - I may be wrong but champ teams get £250k now, worst case scenario we lose that. We would still be one of the best supported clubs outside SL so does everyone else go t1ts up as well - we just pay people less don’t we, there’s nowhere else for the to go

Might not be all doom and gloom..



If the champ clubs stick together and play on Saturday and Sunday they could have a package of 60 ish games to sell to broadcasters. In today's world content is king and if we can't get a minimum of £5 million for that then we must be employing some one from the RFL rather than a professional.



Controlling a champ competition with strict rules on salary cap and recruitment could lead to a very tight set of exciting games between well matched clubs - a marketable prospect.



You could then tell Superleague we aren't interested in promotion!

You could also go down the lines of the Championship becoming the transatlantic league. But I'll leave MO with his " we either go up or are doomed opinion".. Which of course he is entitled too.



It most definitely is, time for change. Personally I don't think SL is the answer.

You may be happy to settle for us to be plying our trade in what is the second best (Championship) on going for who know's how long, maybe forever. And you also may be employing some selective memory in your thinking that no one would be bothered about not being able to have a shot at promotion, do you not remember what it was like in the Championship with the draw bridge pulled firmly up under a closed shop scenario, all teams in the division suffered from reduced attendances, the majority of the public drifted away. Magically come 2015 and P&R was reinstated interest picked up and fans returned and it has been on an upward trend ever since.

I don't know what you do in life Atomic, but I would hazard a guess that those who have made good financially (Owners and Chairmen) those who invest in RL clubs like Leigh have gained their fortunes by being ambitious and being winner's and wanting/striving to get to the top. I would not see it being any different for those guy's in RL terms, take away the opportunity of promotion and I consider we will take away their desire of continuing to invest if we once again return to a closed shop, and I think our owner may be one of the first one's to vactate his seat, love him or loathe him Leigh needs him as do other clubs need their investor's, ambition is what keeps these guy's coming back for more, a closed shop will take the Championship back 5 years and it will dwindle away over time.