Don't tell me John Kear knobbled the ref at half time....

I'm not interested in the penalty count at all really, we've had stokes before, we know what he's like and we gave him the excuses he needed. The annoying thing for me was when we were 14 12 up, and he disallowed the gardner try, fev fans, fax fans, leigh fans, whoever, must have been able to see that it went backwards by a good way. That decision changed the game massively, and the penalty for not playing the ball?! please, it's 2012, the ball hasn't been played for ten years. The technical pens, fair enough some were a bit harsh , but as i said, we gave that clown the excuse to blow his whistle. More guile needed...again.

Well I don't buy into that theory Derek.



Like I said refs have good and bad games. Stokes had a poor one (for us)last night. The consequence of all those penalties we conceded in the last hour of the game was that we had to do so much tackling it took it's toll on our players and it is a lot easier to win a game if you have the majority of the ball.



Next week assuming Henderson is banned we have Nico back as hooker and Beswick to loose forward.



Should any player have taken a bad knock last night we only have 1 player (Deano) to call upon as a replacement.



Well here's hoping we do the business next week.



Neutrals who watched the game however seemed to have reached a concensus that the bounce of the ball went Fev's way last night. That's not made up it is true but it doesn't of course alter the result even if it makes some of us feel better.

There was nowt strange about it Derek. It was an inept ill disciplined Leigh performance. You shouldn't (but will) blame the ref for that one. Have an objective look at the players performances that day. Batley's outside four murdered a Leigh team who tired because they were a scratch side down to the bare bones, containing injured players who tired because they wouldn't normally have played. Thus they conceded penalties. Come on Derek, show just a smidgin of objectivity!!

Bloody hell Francis, that's almost a good post!!!

RFF thank you for your opinion, we all have them. Mine is you are talking garbage and that the definition of bent is allowing one team to get away with that the other gets penalised for - hence he was bent.

He seemed to be got at last night, Powell is a smart lad who knows how to push boundries and is well liked in the right places.

I will also question your sanity after complimenting Franks post

Fair play Mo, we all have opinions. Mine are there. We don't have to agree.

I think your talking cobblers but c'est la vie. I do sincerely hope Leigh get to the final.

I think the score flattered us and I think you were unlucky with one or two crucial decisions at critical times in the game - as I've stated above.

But I don't believe, nor do I have any evidence that any ref is bent - or have been got at.

Coaches will whinge - and do, players will make errors and conceed penalties - and refs will have sh it games. That might make them a sh it referee, it doesn't make em bent.



We disagree. C'est la vie. Not the fall of Rome is it??

Tho yes, I agree with your comments here. My references to franks post are wholly misplaced. I apologise unreservedly!

Was just pointing out a fact RFF. Still sounds Luke he might be a SL ref down like a certain Mr Child's before him.

Bloody phone.........SL ref soon...........not down

It isn't and the day we fans cannot passionately disagree is the day to pack it in, although opinions of Frank will always find common ground

If Stokes and Smith had wiped two tries out for Fev like the ones we had chalked off, there would have been a riot and I couldn't really have blamed the Fev fans. 16-7 penalty count and two cracking tries ruled out. Say no more. Yep. I think the ref handled it in a fair manner (not).