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| Where are the coppers actually based during the game - Leigh police station? In both the Daily Mail videos it seems an absolute age before they come out onto the pitch and then they are just sauntering about like they are on a Sunday stroll!! 
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| Quote The Watcher="The Watcher"The Watcher recalls that Hillsborough was not caused by hooligans/football violence but by very poor policing by the West Yorkshire force, subsequently made worse by the lying of officers & the attempt to cover up its failings rather than own up to them.'"
The "watcher" normally is spot on, but this had nothing to do with the "WEST" Yorkshire Police!
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| Quote Twitch="Twitch"What happened does not surprise me as I have not seen so many drunks milling around town at 12.00 in my life.The Whistling Wren was full at 11.30 and the Thomas Burke was packed early doors. I heard trouble was brewing outside The Brittania which was full of Cas fans who were being goaded by a gang of Widners fans.
No excuse at all but not a surprise as all the elements were there,I do admire the Cas fans who did not raise to the bait and there were some big lads there who I'm sure would of relished getting stuck into the Widnes fans on the pitch.
Side issue but I think the RFL will have been made up at the LSV ,it looked great on TV ,the pitch was as good as any in the country and it was full,and the atmosphere came across really well on the TV.'"
First of all, I'd like to apologise for the scenes and the behaviour of the scum responsible for the trouble and hope there is little/no damage to the LSV. No excuse or reason for it other than idiots who can't handle beer.
I was in The Brittannia before the game though and saw no trouble, just both sets of fans having a few beers. Yes Widnes fans were singing but it didn't seem like it was aimed at goading Cas fans
Still seething and embarrassed.
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| I'd love to know what the stewards could have done better. Their first priority has to be to themselves - that's the same in any similar job - followed by looking after the innocent fans. This they did, there was no confrontation.
Keeping them off the pitch by physical means would be somewhere near the bottom of their list of priorities, and given that they were outnumbered there wasn't much they could have done.
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| Quote salfordlad="salfordlad"Almost all of the idiots who ran on the pitch did not have Widnes shirts on and it was obvious most of those shown on you tube who did have Widnes shirts on near to the barriers were too drunk to get over the barriers and that was about 3.
Stewards did their best and the prompt arrival of the police officers stopped it from getting worse.'"
What the hell as that got to do with it please explain???
Iv followed Fev since I was 8 years old and haven't had a shirt for a few years
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| Well it was in response to an earlier post where someone suggested that most of the pitch invaders had Widnes shirts on.
I can understand why you would not want to wear a Fev shirt.
Most know that the folk who ran on the pitch were drunken idiots irrespective of what they were wearing.
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| Many had shirts/colours on Frank, the football fan excuse does not wash as I can't see them spending £40 just for one game of RL. Is it also true that Widnes have a suspended fine from last season still hanging over them or is that someone else.
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| Quote Redchemic="Redchemic"First of all, I'd like to apologise for the scenes and the behaviour of the scum responsible for the trouble and hope there is little/no damage to the LSV. No excuse or reason for it other than idiots who can't handle beer.
I was in The Brittannia before the game though and saw no trouble, just both sets of fans having a few beers. Yes Widnes fans were singing but it didn't seem like it was aimed at goading Cas fans
Still seething and embarrassed.'"
Thats good to hear both sets of fans getting on,just goes to show you can't believe everything you are told.
I feel sorry for Widnes who have spent years rebuilding their team from the bottom up,yet it only takes something like Sunday to destroy reputations etc.We have had some really tense and high stake games with Widnes over tthe last 10 years and I have been to most if not all and never saw any trouble,so hopefully this was a one off fuelled by way too much ale.
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| Your right Demon I think from an incident at Wakefield again live on sky
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| Quote Brad Fittler Fan Club="Brad Fittler Fan Club"Where are the coppers actually based during the game - Leigh police station? In both the Daily Mail videos it seems an absolute age before they come out onto the pitch and then they are just sauntering about like they are on a Sunday stroll!!
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The Police unit who attended were most likely a Tactical Aid unit who could have been anywhere in the GMP area as these days because of costs The Police are not normally required to attend Rugby games, IF they were local officers they would have been called from all over the Wigan Division which in my experience is unlikely as there was probably only that number actually on duty throughout the whole division on a 'normal' Sunday afternoon, fortunately (or unfortunately depending on ones point of view) policing in England is not like some countries on the continent where the Police are a para-military group and live in barracks where they are easily deployed to trouble.
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| Quote FredParky="FredParky"The Police unit who attended were most likely a Tactical Aid unit who could have been anywhere in the GMP area as these days because of costs The Police are not normally required to attend Rugby games, IF they were local officers they would have been called from all over the Wigan Division which in my experience is unlikely as there was probably only that number actually on duty throughout the whole division on a 'normal' Sunday afternoon, fortunately (or unfortunately depending on ones point of view) policing in England is not like some countries on the continent where the Police are a para-military group and live in barracks where they are easily deployed to trouble.'"
Assume the RFL will have to pick up the tab for this 'emergency policing'.
We have to hope this will encourage the RFL to go down the zero tolerance route.
Unfortunately the Widnes club and the thousands of genuine Widnes fans will have to bear any consequences (including the cost of any repairs to damage at the LSV) but we have to hope they will appreciate that if this type of hooliganism is allowed to fester and grow in our sport then there will ultimately be a heavy price to pay for all clubs. All genuine fans would of course prefer to see such hard earned cash being spent on developing their clubs and the sport.
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| The Watcher wrote:The Watcher recalls that Hillsborough was not caused by hooligans/football violence but by very poor policing by the South Yorkshire force, subsequently made worse by the lying of officers & the attempt to cover up its failings rather than own up to them.
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The inquiry is now complete is it?
Yes, it is.
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