The thing is Alan, these idea's are standard practice in running a business, but it seems that for as long as I can remember and were involved and then not involved the club is seen as a hobby, well time to start being a business, that involves employing people to do these things, before you go blowing 90% of your budget on RL players



To do a proper gathering of information does require a ' Gate ' Census IMO, although a large proportion can be done beforehand as regards ST holders, and once you have done the 1 st one, the following years it becomes much simpler, just requiring possibly nothing more than requesting a postcode



Once again, this is not just about matchday preference, once you have everybodys details you can ask them anything simply by either e mailing them or texting them ,both forms of communication cost very little, and it gives you an indication of how you are performing

But that still doesnt give you everybodies e mail address, mobile no, address, age and beer preference does it frank?

Once you have done a gate Census on a particular day, there is nothing to stop you then using the local press, this website, club website asking for others who cannot attend that particular day to contact the club with their details



Also bearing in mind if you had already done a Census and obtained this information you could ask people for name and postcode when purchasing a ticket which would tell you who had stopped attending and you could ask them why

Not suggesting it is their fault Fred, just worried they will take the easy option as many have done before



As far as the local amatuers are concerned, personally I dont think it works, playing and watching ( especially not top tier ) dont neccessarily go in hand, when at HP, I witnessed many curtain raisers where once their game was over, coaches, players and parents were in a rush to get out of the ground so as not to miss the kick off at Wigan,Saints and Warrington



Leigh Centurions it seemed where not deemed good enough to be watched by our local juniors

'Super League' and 'Rugby League'



I have touched on this before and both of the above conjure up conflicting conceptions of our sport.

Agreed. You can also tell them things, which is the other side of the communication equation.

Yes it is, which is also the idea behind getting large numbers of new fans into the stadium by hook or crook for 1 game, you retain their details, and then are able to supply them with offers that might entice them to attend again



Information ( potential new fans ) is the key to the clubs future



It just needs that leap of faith to obtain it

So its seems Friday night is the only NO NO

But is it just down to them playing well and winning frank?



Or is it down to long term plans instigated when they were relegated ? , which have pushed their business forward in many facets ?

Friday night is the least preferred for those that will go regardless. Everyone on here is missing the point. 95% of the 1500 fans that currently watch will still go no matter what day/night we play. The question needs to be which day/night would help to increase the current poor crowds by attracting new/old fans and increase the corporate revenue in the boxes. Tap into the research that has already been done by the Super League clubs over the last fifteen years about how they increased their crowds and match day revenue and copy that. It's proven and factual. There is no point trying to re-invent the wheel. Why would leigh be any different to any other RL club/town? Ask yourselves why do Leeds, Wigan, Hull, Saints and Wire NEVER schedule home games for a Saturday evening? Do you think they haven't done the research?

All those clubs are in SL, they in the main are able to attract much larger corporate support and income than Leigh, our potential for corporate income is tiny compared to these clubs, our focus has to be bums on seats and feet on terrace

...and Super League is the target that the B.O.M. have set themselves. We have to start acting like a SL club if we want to be one. Copy the successful business models with paitience and un-quivering determination to stay on that model (despite what unexpected pitfalls that come up) and you can't fail. Trying to re-invent the wheel is a waste of time and money and will take your focus away from your targets.