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| Depends who goes
We need a fullback of attacking ability - while Hardacre fits the bill he's also a liability I think but maybe if he comes cheap, might have had some humility knocked into him down under
Escare is quality in attack but strangely out of favour at the Dragons, but then they do things oddly there
Other than am aussie unknown then a promotion from academy maybe
As for hooker...Leeming is quality and will get better, he just needs game time. Ellis maybe? It is his natural position but his passing is awful at times
Pelisier- maybe but not as well as Leeming. Quality hookers are in short supply
Ormsby has impressed at times, maybe a preseason will turn him into the player he can be but then we need a new centre unless Wardle stays
My main thing is we need new props, I'm not sure Eorl is quite done yet personally but we need a new front row forward, though maybe Dan Smith will make a come back
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| id like to just enjoy the moment of yesterday still for a while longer yet!
but yes for 2017 we need changes, or at least to learn the lessons from 2016
we need to have a squad of players!!!!!!!!!! we went into this season far too light so bringing in the bradford 3 will help on that score
sort the full back situation (maybe mamo?)
sort a hooker (maybe randell?)
sort centre (maybe gaskell)
some mongrel forward/s to bring back the biff we lack
in rick stone we trust, he knows the issues i feel so look forward to seeing what the off season brings!

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| Quote brearley84="brearley84"id like to just enjoy the moment of yesterday still for a while longer yet!
but yes for 2017 we need changes, or at least to learn the lessons from 2016
we need to have a squad of players!!!!!!!!!! we went into this season far too light so bringing in the bradford 3 will help on that score
sort the full back situation (maybe mamo?)
sort a hooker (maybe randell?)
sort centre (maybe gaskell)
some mongrel forward/s to bring back the biff we lack
in rick stone we trust, he knows the issues i feel so look forward to seeing what the off season brings!
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The Bradford 3 will definitely help fill squad numbers yes. Won't play like but they will help fill up your squad.
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| For props we could look at Dane Tilse from HKR. Or Koppy back from Salford. Tilse is a beast and quite aggressive. Koppy very reliable ( depends on who is going and staying though)
Sio could be a good shout to move to centre ?
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| We need to make a lot of changes to strengthen the team in a number of areas. This will require big changes based not just on the quality of the player but also what they cost on the cap.
LE says that wood , josh Johnson and Eorl are off if we can move them on. Connor will be going to Hull.
I would let Wardle go if it helps us get Mamo and Randell ( in stone we trust).
Grix is already going afaik with Wakey and fax being mentioned.
As for sacred cows we could consider moving on two players depending on what it would save on the salary cap and whether we could get as good as or better players in.
Brough. Always rumours around him and never know what to believe. But could replace with Soward. Just as good and might be cheaper ?
Jerry. Wigan apparently are desperate for him. Would be a good swap for Sio if he came cheaper.?
None of these are based solely on playing ability. We cannot afford to be sentimental about this But stone needs to rebuild. Too may underperforming players who are not mentally tough enough. Rebuilding will require skill and making some difficult decisions .
Maybe the slaughtering of sacred cows will be an indication of what we direction we are heading in.
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"We need to make a lot of changes to strengthen the team in a number of areas. This will require big changes based not just on the quality of the player but also what they cost on the cap.
LE says that wood , josh Johnson and Eorlmare off if we can move them on. Connor will be going to Hull.
I would let Wardle go if it helps us get Mamo and Randell ( in stone we trust).
Grix is already going afaik with Wakey and fax being mentioned.
As for sacred cows we could consider moving on two players depending on what it would save on the salary cap and whether we could get as good as or better players in.
Brough. Always rumours around him and never know what to believe. But could replace with Soward. Just as good and might be cheaper ?
Jerry. Wigan apparently are desperate for him. Would be a good swap for Sio if he came cheaper.?
None of these are based solely on playing ability. We cannot afford to be sentimental about this But stone needs to rebuild. Too may underperforming players who are not mentally tough enough. Rebuilding will require skill and making some difficult decisions .
Maybe the slaughtering of sacred cows will be an indication of what we direction we are heading in.'"
Tilse and Sio are good players no doubt about that.Wouldn't complain if we could get 1 or both of them.
Broughy one more year at least,not sure of his contract situation,but his legs are showing no sign of slowing down.
They are saying a clear out,are we looking at the likes of Ellis,Ormsby. Be sorry to lose Eorl even now his battered body is one that can be relied on,- Jezzler going would be a huge huge blow.
Players are starting to look more confident under Stone,Murphy has run harder in last few games than all season,Hinchy looking better out of acting half.
Halves are so important,bulk Brierley up for 'D' will that slow him down.
It's gonna be interesting to say the least.
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Wigan will no doubt take the first pick,then depends who's left.Josh Jones looks a consistent performer. Wouldn't say no.
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| Wouldn't touch tilse with a barge pole. Dislike him intensly - he's a grub and the sort of player who goes to injure.
Koppy- nope, he left Bradford for money, he left us for money. This year has shown we need players to play for each other, themselves, the shirt, anything else - but not for the money.
We are solid in the back row, we need a prop, centre, fullback and possibly a hooker
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| Quote jools="jools"Wouldn't touch tilse with a barge pole. Dislike him intensly - he's a grub and the sort of player who goes to injure.
Koppy- nope, he left Bradford for money, he left us for money. This year has shown we need players to play for each other, themselves, the shirt, anything else - but not for the money.
We are solid in the back row, we need a prop, centre, fullback and possibly a hooker'"
Are you hearing owt with regards to potential new signings Joolsy ?
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| Quote jools="jools"Wouldn't touch tilse with a barge pole. Dislike him intensly - he's a grub and the sort of player who goes to injure.
Koppy- nope, he left Bradford for money, he left us for money. This year has shown we need players to play for each other, themselves, the shirt, anything else - but not for the money.
We are solid in the back row, we need a prop, centre, fullback and possibly a hooker'"
Then Tilse is the sort of player we need and to channel that aggression.
Too many nice players at the Giants. Nice does not win trophies. We have needed an aggressive enforcer for years in te pack. We would also need another one IMHO.
There were rumours about Westwood which I hope are not true
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"Then Tilse is the sort of player we need and to channel that aggression.
Too many nice players at the Giants. Nice does not win trophies. We have needed an aggressive enforcer for years in te pack. We would also need another one IMHO.
There were rumours about Westwood which I hope are not true'"
What was the story behind the departure of O'Donnell,he wasn't exactly a nice guy was he 
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