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| Quote Steve Ella's Beard="Steve Ella's Beard"I think the sooner the season ends and he is released, the better for both club and player. Whatever the reasons for non selection are, it's a wedge of cap to have tied up if he's not gonna come into the mix.'"
Agree completely..Its currently an expensive handicap on the the whole team.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"FWIW I think the o/p is right. The bench choice seems to have gone a bit awry in the second half of the season. Madge picked Tuson and didn't play him v Leeds to we played them with 16 men and tonight Deacon came on for about 10 mins.
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Tonight you played against only 16 men.
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| Quote Paul Youane="Paul Youane"Tonight you played against only 16 men.'"
As did you largely, Roberts and Mossop went off injured (the roberts injury before he got taken off having a reasonable contribution to 2 of your tries) Deacon played a token last few minutes.
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| Quote Steve Ella's Beard="Steve Ella's Beard"I just said I don't know why he's not playing, presumably there's a reason other than Maguire doesn't like his trousers

I didn't suggest it may be down to player's attitude (like some have about some players being dropped), or that he couldn't have done a job. Purely and simply, that I don't know, but you'd expect there'd be some kind of reason for it.'"
Whatever the reason is it must be a bloody important one if the alternative is picking such an inexperienced and lightweight pack against one the size of Wires. He is clearly not carrying an injury as he gets to be 18th man every week. He is regularly in the 19 but never plays these days.
It's pure speculation but I think it is simply down to Madge's meritocracy. Mossop (for example) trains better all week, does what Madge wants all week. Feka doesn't because he physically can't (which to Madge is a black mark in itself) so Mossop is the automatic choice [iignoring the opposition[/i. If I am right I think Madge is cutting his nose off to spite his face because he must clearly see the need for more size and experience in the pack against a team like Wire and so despite not being perfect IMO he should pick Feka to do a job but simply will not consider it. I get the impression Madge wouldn't have picked Brett Kenny because he wandered around with his hands in his pockets and sometimes you just have to be a bit more flexible to pick the right side IMO.
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| The biggest error for me last night was the failure to bring Roberts off as soon as he was injured. The error lead to two Warrington tires, which I believe could and should have been avoided. As a side note, Roberts is obviously so much a confidence player that he becomes a pretty majoy weakness when he's not in great form; let's hope when he fully recovers from his injury he starts playing again as we get into the play offs.
I'd also have had Paleaaesina on the bench last night, might as well use him while we have him, and given the conditions, the game was always going to be won by the forwards last night.
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| Maybe MM saw the semi final from last year where Feka got totally exposed by Monaghan that he thought he couldn't risk it? I am not saying I agreee that Feka should or shouldn't of played but surely Maguire is aware more than ever at our need for some big props for next year.
Maybe we should be giving IL some stick for refussing to get us a prop last year even though everyone knew that was the area we were most in needs of improving and instead he plucked for Deacon.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Whatever the reason is it must be a bloody important one if the alternative is picking such an inexperienced and lightweight pack against one the size of Wires. He is clearly not carrying an injury as he gets to be 18th man every week. He is regularly in the 19 but never plays these days.
It's pure speculation but I think it is simply down to Madge's meritocracy. Mossop (for example) trains better all week, does what Madge wants all week. Feka doesn't because he physically can't (which to Madge is a black mark in itself) so Mossop is the automatic choice [iignoring the opposition[/i. If I am right I think Madge is cutting his nose off to spite his face because he must clearly see the need for more size and experience in the pack against a team like Wire and so despite not being perfect IMO he should pick Feka to do a job but simply will not consider it. I get the impression Madge wouldn't have picked Brett Kenny because he wandered around with his hands in his pockets and sometimes you just have to be a bit more flexible to pick the right side IMO.
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i'm surprised (and glad) he wasn't picked last night, i know we go on about how we worked him out of the game with monas at the semi last year, but at the H&J this season, we couldn't stop him.
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| Quote Feka made a bad 'First Impression' on MM with his conduct at the pre-season meal at the Boars Head. He arrived late and left early. The rest of the team stayed together for the early part and some went down the lane. I dont think he has recovered from this.'"
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| Only problem i have with the Feka situation is when Coley got his ban MM said this was Feka's chance to impress. And how can he impress if he does not play him i think we needed him last night but then again i am not the coach. We nearly lost Fielden and we lost Mossop i just feel having Feka as a backup prop would have helped last night.
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| If feka had played we'd have lost by a lot more than one try.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"
I made a similar point to the o/p in the prop thread that we didn't need such an inexperienced pack out there with Feka in the squad.
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I must admit I was hugely suprised that Feka wasnt on the bench and in the end it made a difference. Allthough Wigans youngsters have been outstanding for large parts of the season you really do need an experienced Interchange bench for big matches like last night. Maguire got that one wrong imo but apart from that he has been outstanding for Wigan this year. A top class coach.
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| I dont think Feka would have scored the try Tuson did and I think Tuson would have missed out for Feka
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