how is it that wire blow teams away from start to finish and wigan do just enough but are now looking a lot more fatigued than wire, i know the cc is ostly to blae for that but it's only 2 more matches for ya than us. think youre coach made a mistake by not resting players properly for both comps??

Not really got any excuses. Todays game means nothing if we win next week though. We are back to the same situation and I would rather play saints away.

The only slight positive i can see from us losing today is if we do manage to play Saints again we will go there with a point to prove and determined to put things right. Had we beaten them again today would we of been over confident next time around?

He made a couple of bad errors. Every game has a gamebreak moment and that Lomax break early in the second half was it after we had just scored. We would have had our tails up before that and could have took the game to them only being 2 points behind but their score soon after deflated us again. Like i put in another post Mossop would have been excellent cover in the 2nd row and also the beef we needed against their pack.

3 more games.



Biggest reason is that the main players have not been rested. Before and after CC final the last 2 seasons Wire have rested players. Should have rested players especially last week. Taking nothing from Saints we were poor today but we have been rather poor in the last 3 now. Only team i think that can stop Wire now in Leeds. Will be 1 hell of a choice for Tony Smith if he has the choice of Leeds or us. Leeds are playing well the last few weeks and are running into form.

you played us in the quarters and then the semi which is 1 game and then the final which is 2, are you saying that the magnificent maguire made a mistake??

And the World Club Challenge is 3.



Glad to see you can count.

Season over for me, its a massive effort to peak for the WCC and the CC run. Even if we pull a win next week we look well off the pace, many players look to be carrying a few knocks, others like Carmont, Hoffman and Deacs look shot and would probably be dropped if we had backup.



Personally Id settle for the CC this season and look to solidify and strengthen in a few areas for next season, it might be food for thought for Leneghan if the season does not finish on a high.



Fair play to Saints, they are very consistent and if your off the boil a bit you will be beaten, I'd also like to add Lomax is developing into a top-class back and should be a shoe in for the England squad come November. Saints played as they always do, strong in the middle, good defence and decent attacking plays. We didnt hit the straps today and they wore us down. If they get to the final though i can only see it being 5 Grand Final defeats in a row as they lack that extra 5% which mean they only score on half of the plays as they should be.

LOL that was quite a while ago, surely you can't count that. and anywayz read my post, i said only two games more in CC. never mentioned the wcc so why would i count that?

To be honest I am worried about next week. Catalan are a dangerous team and are pretty damn good!



They were excellent at the DW earlier in the season. But yeah the players are looking fatigued, just looks like the extra WCC game plus the challenge cup is too much for any side.



If we do beat Catalan it will be interesting to see who Warrington pick!

Gotta gree with that. The timing of the CC is poor at the moment

Becasue it is 3 games more. Thought i would remind you incase you forgot. That although i see as a glorified friendly did force use to play Cas midweek with a short turn around and i think we lost to Catalan on that weekend. Not making exsuses but Maguire did not rest some players enough this season. Maybe forced on him in part with the Fielden injury and Gleeson going. We have a big squad but in certain areas we are thin and it has showed since the CC.