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| Quote zntyres="zntyres"Twice as bad as Flower"s ??'"

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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Indeed. He ran with the conviction of a scared 5 year old girl when he had the line at his mercy in the first half.'"
It doesn't seen to have been picked up on how pathetically embarrassing that attempt was until now! Even the sky team didn't bag him for what was a shambles of a missed opportunity.
He's literally producing the most uncommitted prop performances I've ever seen at the minute. The most worrying thing is that Mossop himself said he believes he's been back towards his best these past few weeks 
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| Quote nohalfbacks="nohalfbacks"It was funny to watch Simms hide for 10 minutes after the incident. He didn't want to go anywhere near the ball in case he got snotted. Not that Wigan's forwards would have done much but he was clearly keeping out of the way just in case.
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He still finished the game with 16 carries (93 metres) and 36 tackles.
Your props stats.
Mossop 13 (89 metres)
Crosby 11 (60 metres)
Tautai 10 (75 metres). When he wasn't dropping it, he was clearly not right after bouncing off King.
Flower 8 (50 metres). He did make 49 tackles though.
Sutton 8 (35 metres)
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| I wonder if this constant anti-wigan which hunt is starting to take the toll with people like Flower who will no doubt be hauled over the coals for the rest of his career if he puts a foot out of line.
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| Quote tank123="tank123"Nothing cheap about throwing a couple of punches at a player on the ground unable to protect himself.'"
You should ask Andy Flower about that one. He wrote the book...... its an international best seller.
Its jut a shame Simms missed when he tried punching. Will still get a ban for intent. The worse offence was the cruncher tackle by Clark. It appears he's been watching Wigan play thugby and taking notes.
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| Quote Paul2812="Paul2812"You should ask Andy Flower about that one. He wrote the book...... its an international best seller.
Its jut a shame Simms missed when he tried punching. Will still get a ban for intent. The worse offence was the cruncher tackle by Clark. It appears he's been watching Wigan play thugby and taking notes.'"
WTF is Andy Flower.
What book did he write will look for it asap.
Think you need to learn to read tbh or if you have dyslexia i do apologise. Either way.
I am not 
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| Quote Paul2812="Paul2812"You should ask Andy Flower about that one. He wrote the book...... its an international best seller.
[uIts jut a shame Simms missed when he tried punching.[/u Will still get a ban for intent. The worse offence was the cruncher tackle by Clark. It appears he's been watching Wigan play thugby and taking notes.'"
Classy..
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| Quote tank123="tank123"WTF is Andy Flower.
What book did he write will look for it asap.
Think you need to learn to read tbh or if you have dyslexia i do apologise. Either way.
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Had the look for the Andy Flower book.
Nothing on writing the book either.
Anyone heard of this book by Andy Flower.
If he did and he is the Ambassador for Help the Children then someone CALL THE POLICE.
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| Found something on Andy Flower now just wondering when the book is out. And did he knock him out. Can not wait to get the book.
[urlhttp://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/07/kevin-pietersen-andy-flower-england-cricket[/url
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| Quote goobervision="goobervision"I wonder if this constant anti-wigan which hunt is starting to take the toll with people like Flower who will no doubt be hauled over the coals for the rest of his career if he puts a foot out of line.'"
Flower looks mentally shot to me. He looks like he thinks all eyes are on him and he's playing with zero aggression.
It was always the danger I suppose that he would go in to his shell. He looks in need of a few weeks off to me.
Is it just me it does he look to have lost a lot of muscle? He looked tiny on Thursday.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Flower looks mentally shot to me. He looks like he thinks all eyes are on him and he's playing with zero aggression.
It was always the danger I suppose that he would go in to his shell. He looks in need of a few weeks off to me.
Is it just me it does he look to have lost a lot of muscle? He looked tiny on Thursday.'"
To a certain degree i agree with you.
But tbh all our props bar Clubb and TT look very poor this season. And we are talking about Mossop, Flower and Crosby who have been exceptional.
TT makes yards but has off loads too much and makes mistakes and Clubb used to be a centre so that might explain why he is the stand out as Wane is using our centre as main ball carriers instead of the props.
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| Probably not a popular opinion but I think we need to make a decision on Flower's future. I know he owes us massively and Wane is always going to stick by him but he's a shadow of the player that he was a year/18 months ago and I doubt he will ever return to that form. I would rather cut our losses now rather than carry him for another couple of years still hoping he'll get over what happened.
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